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Is Boycott closer to Kallis or Sehwag?

Who is Geoffrey Boycott closer to in quality as a test batsman?


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PlayerComparisons

International Vice-Captain
Who is Boycoft closer to in quality as a test batsman in your opinion?

If you think Sehwag is better than Boycott, then vote for Sehwag
 
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Coronis

International Coach
Off the top of my head in terms of ranking he’s probably closer to Kallis. But in terms of quality probably Sehwag.
 

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
Different eras and had to play against high quality Windies and Australian attacks at different times. Boycott played quite a high proportion of his test v Australia and West Indies and his record stands up to scrutiny. He averaged 47.5 v Australia (45 away). 45 v West Indies and 51 away. There was far less poor teams around to uplift his stats than there would be 20+ years later. IMO, you can put him a lot closer to Kallis than the stats would suggest as a batsman.
 

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
It seems like boycott is rated a tier below Kallis but above sehwag here
I don't believe that Boycott is a full tier behind Kallis. A bit behind but not so far. Kallis had the chance to boost his number v Bangladesh and Zimbabwe at the start of those countries test playing years, when often they were so way behind adequate test match level. He averages 79 v Banglas and nearly 170 v Zim. Boycott never had the chance to play against opposition as weak as those and Kallis also averaged 73 against West Indies. Windies sadly, by the time Kallis got to play against them hardly had a fast bowler worthy of that name for many years, which is a night and day comparison to whom Boycott was up against.

To be clear, I'm not saying Boycott is as good as Kallis, I'm saying it is a fair bit closer than a 'tier below'.
 

Coronis

International Coach
I don't believe that Boycott is a full tier behind Kallis. A bit behind but not so far. Kallis had the chance to boost his number v Bangladesh and Zimbabwe at the start of those countries test playing years, when often they were so way behind adequate test match level. He averages 79 v Banglas and nearly 170 v Zim. Boycott never had the chance to play against opposition as weak as those and Kallis also averaged 73 against West Indies. Windies sadly, by the time Kallis got to play against them hardly had a fast bowler worthy of that name for many years, which is a night and day comparison to whom Boycott was up against.

To be clear, I'm not saying Boycott is as good as Kallis, I'm saying it is a fair bit closer than a 'tier below'.
Boycs had a chance to cash in against NZ before Hadlee was properly good but couldn’t manage too.

Cashing in against weak attacks is an important skill.
 

PlayerComparisons

International Vice-Captain
I don't believe that Boycott is a full tier behind Kallis. A bit behind but not so far. Kallis had the chance to boost his number v Bangladesh and Zimbabwe at the start of those countries test playing years, when often they were so way behind adequate test match level. He averages 79 v Banglas and nearly 170 v Zim. Boycott never had the chance to play against opposition as weak as those and Kallis also averaged 73 against West Indies. Windies sadly, by the time Kallis got to play against them hardly had a fast bowler worthy of that name for many years, which is a night and day comparison to whom Boycott was up against.

To be clear, I'm not saying Boycott is as good as Kallis, I'm saying it is a fair bit closer than a 'tier below'.
I’m not sure he really had the career to be rated in the same class as Kallis tbh. Kallis averaged like 61 over a 136 test stretch which is still significantly longer than boycotts entire career. Unsure of whether he’s closer to Kallis and Sehwag tho.

The consensus here seems to be its not a close comparison either
 

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
I’m not sure he really had the career to be rated in the same class as Kallis tbh. Kallis averaged like 61 over a 136 test stretch which is still significantly longer than boycotts entire career. Unsure of whether he’s closer to Kallis and Sehwag tho.

The consensus here seems to be its not a close comparison either
I simply don't agree that bagging loads of runs against weak bowling to boost the record does what you think it does. In a different era, where Boycott played fewer games and a higher proportion of his matches against the best teams, Boycott's record stands up well. We simply don't know exactly what he would have got if he had the chance to play against some of the very weakest sides that Kallis did. I take the point that his efforts v NZ without Hadlee were somewhat disappointing, but the other side of the coin is that I think you are devaluing his efforts against the two high quality sides he did play against. In that aspect alone, he is far closer to Kallis, indeed his record against the two leading fast bowling sides is quite something, especially given the era.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Boycott had the output to be argued in on Kallis tier, Given the Era obvs; but he was also a selfish slowpoke; keyword selfish. So he is still better than Sehwag for me, but closer to him than someone like Kallis.
 

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
Boycott had the output to be argued in on Kallis tier, Given the Era obvs; but he was also a selfish slowpoke; keyword selfish. So he is still better than Sehwag for me, but closer to him than someone like Kallis.
Sometimes Kallis could have been seen to be that way, especially in the 5th test of the SA v England series in 2004/5.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Sometimes Kallis could have been seen to be that way, especially in the 5th test of the SA v England series in 2004/5.
Much rarer. Kallis had a few moments he failed to accelerate; but Boycott batting was detrimental much more often.
 

Johan

State Vice-Captain
At least Kallis’s strike erase was close to 50 for most of his career. Boycotts was like 35 lol.
Eh, I'd take a 35-40sr opener in England/Newzealand very happily. a Slow opener can take the shine off the ball, can counteract the early swing and render the strike bowlers of the opposition tired, it's not a bad thing at all.
 

Coronis

International Coach
Sometimes Kallis could have been seen to be that way, especially in the 5th test of the SA v England series in 2004/5.
Given the performance of the other batsmen in the side in that innings I’d say he more likely saved them a match.

136 off 217 (SR 62.7) to build to a total of just 185 for England to chase. Very unfair to blame him for that draw. And yet AB’s innings is more praised.. 109 off 169 (SR 64.5) If he attacks more and gets out when AB does they have 15 more overs to get 40 less runs.
 

Chin Music

State Vice-Captain
At least Kallis’s strike erase was close to 50 for most of his career. Boycotts was like 35 lol.
Can't find the s/r for Boycott and yes I agree that he was definitely slow, even for his era, but I wouldn't have called Kallis quick, he was circa 46, in an era where many good players were closer to 60.
 

PlayerComparisons

International Vice-Captain
Can't find the s/r for Boycott and yes I agree that he was definitely slow, even for his era, but I wouldn't have called Kallis quick, he was circa 46, in an era where many good players were closer to 60.
Definitely not fast but for most of his career he was around 50 which is pretty healthy IMO. I prefer it to Boycott’s 35 personally.
 

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