Ravichandran Ashwin vs Ian Botham

[subshakerz]

Depends on the context really. Bhajji's 7-fers or whatever in that high scoring Chennai game of 01 were still invaluable. Cuts both ways though and I acknowledge the point. But fair or not, hundreds and five-fers are traditional milestones that unequivocally cement a player's legacy and it would be nice to see Ashwin play all five Tests in Oz this time and come away with a 25-wicket kitty.

Yes. A fifer is simply a standard milestone. If a SC batsman played 25 tests like Ashwin in SENA and never scored a ton, I am sure we would have issues.

Hopefully Ashwin can break this curse this coming tour.

 

[Xix2565]

Would be nice if people could post something worth considering rather than partisan nonsense made up to denigrate Ashwin for no reason other than being a hater. Especially when as 'fans' they decide to ignore context around spin bowling in the current era. Might as well say you don't know cricket.

 

[honestbharani]

I mean, if anyone actually watched the cricket they claim to be "neutal fans" of, they would know Ash has EASILY been the best spinner since Murali and Warne. Every other idiocy brought up is just that, idiotic drivel possibly backed by partisan or some other bias.

 

[Coronis]

I mean, if anyone actually watched the cricket they claim to be "neutal fans" of, they would know Ash has EASILY been the best spinner since Murali and Warne. Every other idiocy brought up is just that, idiotic drivel possibly backed by partisan or some other bias.

Nice, Garry

 

[Arachnodouche]

Would be nice if people could post something worth considering rather than partisan nonsense made up to denigrate Ashwin for no reason other than being a hater. Especially when as 'fans' they decide to ignore context around spin bowling in the current era. Might as well say you don't know cricket.

 

[subshakerz]

I mean, if anyone actually watched the cricket they claim to be "neutal fans" of, they would know Ash has EASILY been the best spinner since Murali and Warne. Every other idiocy brought up is just that, idiotic drivel possibly backed by partisan or some other bias.

Still would rather have Lyon in my team.

 

[honestbharani]

Freedom of choice to lose games is a thang huh?

 

[capt_Luffy]

I am pretty confident that subshakerz hates honestbharani..... Can't think of any other reason behind attacking Lara and Ashwin, two of HH's favourite players, with such passion.

 

[honestbharani]

I am pretty confident that subshakerz hates honestbharani..... Can't think of any other reason behind attacking Lara and Ashwin, two of HH's favourite players, with such passion.

Laughably pathetic or pathetically laughable? Needs a poll, no?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I am pretty confident that subshakerz hates honestbharani..... Can't think of any other reason behind attacking Lara and Ashwin, two of HH's favourite players, with such passion.

Subs has said Lara is his favorite batsman tho

No bro, not saying that Lara should change his approach. But that Tendulkar had a more secure approach when facing quality fastmen.

Btw Lara is my favorite batsman of all-time.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Subs has said Lara is his favorite batsman tho

Literally everything he has EVER posted points otherwise though.....

 

[honestbharani]

Subs has said Lara is his favorite batsman tho

Its his "black friend" defence.

 

[subshakerz]

Subs has said Lara is his favorite batsman tho

Yes, no better player to watch than Lara. He and Tendulkar are my favorites. The difference is I recognize Lara's flaws and don't excuse them like fanboys here or resort to myth-making.

In fact, Lara's flaws kind of make him more interesting as a case study as a bat.

 

[Coronis]

Freedom of choice to lose games is a thang huh?

Freedom of having the player not be dropped when we tour.

 

[honestbharani]

Freedom of having the player not be dropped when we tour.

More lies.

 

[honestbharani]

Kinda sad that saltshakerz is now resorting to the "black friend" defence in earnest.

PS - pathetically sad.

 

[Coronis]

More lies.

Ashwin -
62 of 62 home games played.
71 of 71 games played in Asia.
31 of 55 games played outside Asia.

 

[subshakerz]

Ashwin -
62 of 62 home games played.
71 of 71 games played in Asia.
31 of 55 games played outside Asia.

Ashwin, the most droppable supposed 'ATG' of all-time.

p.s. this is the same reason Jadeja should be cut points as well.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Ashwin -
62 of 62 home games played.
71 of 71 games played in Asia.
31 of 55 games played outside Asia.

Yeah, ppl denying this is the equivalent of kids plugging their ears going "na nana na na". Part of being the greatest, probably the biggest part of all, in any endeavor really, is making yourself undeniable. Mealymouthed digressions over context don't change this.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Ashwin -
62 of 62 home games played.
71 of 71 games played in Asia.
31 of 55 games played outside Asia.

True but doesn't make much sense in a comparison with Lyon tbh. If Lyon was Indian he wouldn't have made it through Ranji imo much less be undroppable for his country.