Kumble vs Lyon

[subshakerz]

Who is the better spinner?

 

[Johan]

not too much here, Kumble has 619 wickets@29.6 and Lyon has 530 wickets@30.3, better to do this when Lyon hangs his boots.

 

[Arachnodouche]

On par I reckon. Both workmanlike bowlers who've had major successes, though it feels like Lyon's not turned up when expected on more occasions than Kumble. Probably recency bias though.

 

[shortpitched713]

not too much here, Kumble has 619 wickets@29.6 and Lyon has 530 wickets@30.3, better to do this when Lyon hangs his boots.

I will say those summary stats are incredibly misleading and devoid of context. I'd like to see WPM, and the averages during the eras in question which will give more of a lead to Kumble, imho.

 

[Johan]

I will say those summary stats are incredibly misleading and devoid of context. I'd like to see WPM, and the averages during the eras in question which will give more of a lead to Kumble, imho.

WPM
Kumble: 4.68
Lyon: 4.10

aggregate figures for spinners during Kumble's career (1990-2008) – 35.49 avg, 76.6sr
aggregate figures for spinners during Lyon's career (2011-2024) – 33.95 avg, 65.5 sr

so Kumble does have advantage there but Lyon has his own advantages, much tougher home conditions for spinners for one

 

[Burgey]

Kumble is better by a small but discernible amount imo. Asked more questions in a wider variety of conditions. Think he was a mroe dangerous bowler overall.

 

[Daemon]

Jadeja

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Kumble

 

[Arachnodouche]

Jadeja

Easily the best unkempt cricketer in history. No one pulls off the untucked/unshaved/straight-outta-bed look better.

 

[Daemon]

Easily the best unkempt cricketer in history. No one pulls off the untucked/unshaved/straight-outta-bed look better.

Nah there were plenty in the 70s/80s

 

[ataraxia]

Lyon easily

 

[subshakerz]

Lyon easily

So you're the one.

 

[Shri]

lyon for me. but ashwin better than both

 

[sayon basak]

Jadeja

Easy

 

[sayon basak]

lyon for me. but ashwin better than both

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I can see that.

 

[ma1978]

Kumble but the difference in the poll doesn’t reflect the difference in quality. Lyon is class

 

[govinda indian fan]

Kumble

 

[Majestic]

Same level, think Ashwin is above both now as bowler only but yeah not much difference which means Ashwin's bowling average is misleading.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Going for Kumble here but not too much in it.

 

[sayon basak]

This might be a better question to ask-

Was Kumble a spinner?