Al Salvador
Cricket Spectator
Better test batsman
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Gooch vs Gilchrist as test batsman?
- Thread starter Al Salvador
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Johan
State Vice-Captain
Gilchrist adds more to the side than Gooch does even with batting, so Adam Gilchrist
However, I'll say they're close as Batsmen, Gilly only played 9 years, Gooch from 82-93 was averaging 49 with the bat too and played in a much tougher era, so at batsmenship they're compareable.
However, I'll say they're close as Batsmen, Gilly only played 9 years, Gooch from 82-93 was averaging 49 with the bat too and played in a much tougher era, so at batsmenship they're compareable.
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PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Gooch
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Suprised by this result. Gilchrist was a much better cricketer but I thought Gooch would have won this.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Gooch better bat easily. Gooch as an opener had some amazing series and averaged close to 50 for 10+ years. I don’t see Gilly as opener doing well against peak Waqar and Wasim, much less the WI pacers
sayon basak
International Debutant
What does that have to do with anything?
Coronis
International Coach
Lots of people can’t seperate people’s skill in one area from other things in their lives. e.g Karl Malone
Coronis
International Coach
****ed his daughter iirc
sayon basak
International Debutant
Guess that would bring him few more points down as a batter.
Simple. If you went on a rebel tour of South Africa in the 1980s, you should never have been let back into cricket and you should have had your record post that erased
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
I didn’t know Gooch did that. Changing my vote to Gilchrist.
that was Karl Malone. Gooch toured apartheid South Africa.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Don't be politically pedantic now. When people compare present day morals with the past, they often forgets how the morality changes over time. What's considered normal back then may raise eyebrows now, as will what's considered normal now will in the future. Ofcourse there are still things which were simply evil and should be criticized even considering the era (slavery, sati, human sacrifice, etc), but touring SA to play cricket, I hardly believe qualifies as something outright repugnant. Sure, not a great thing to do but not repugnant. If India plays a Test match with Afghanistan now, does it makes Ashwin mysogynists? If India plays a football match with Israel, does Indians supports genocide?
South Africa was banned from international sporting ties. It was repugnant. People viewed it as such then. The West Indies players who went were ostaracized.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
I think WI players being ostracized was more personal, due to their race. Also, back then it was a topic of hot debate, with plenty people believing SA to return to Test cricket at any time.
Edit: To clarify, I am not saying whether Apartheid was justified was debated back then. It was universally repugnant. The debate was mixing sports with politics.
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it’s a fair point. As players though having seen prime Gooch and Gilchrist’s entire career, I don’t think there’s a lot to debate here.