Peak Sanga vs Peak Punter

[centurymaker]

Don't quite agree with that.

 

[Victor Ian]

People have to makeup their minds on Sanga's home pitches.

If they were featherbeds, then Murali has a peak that will take him even surpassing Marshall.
If they were dustbowls, then even Sanga's home pitches were also pretty difficult ones, and puts him way higher than Ponting's peak.

Pick you sides chums.

I've picked long ago. Murali the goat.

But pitches can be suitable to both in that no non Asian team has a spinner of any threat so Sanga gets lucky without having to road the **** out of it. When warne turned up in 04ish and the pitches weren't roads Sanga was weak...and Murali awesome.

 

[kyear2]

I've picked long ago. Murali the goat.

But pitches can be suitable to both in that no non Asian team has a spinner of any threat so Sanga gets lucky without having to road the **** out of it. When warne turned up in 04ish and the pitches weren't roads Sanga was weak...and Murali awesome.

Yes, it can be a dust bowl, and for the average fast bowler it would have been flat for Sanga.

 

[shortpitched713]

People have to makeup their minds on Sanga's home pitches.

If they were featherbeds, then Murali has a peak that will take him even surpassing Marshall.
If they were dustbowls, then even Sanga's home pitches were also pretty difficult ones, and puts him way higher than Ponting's peak.

Pick you sides chums.

General unbiased consensus of that greater period is that it was more on the flat side.

I think that Murali is farther above the greatest spinner peaks compared to Marshall I think being eclipsed for a seamer peak by Imran. Comparing Marshall to Murali directly is probably a bit of a fools errand.

 

[govinda indian fan]

General unbiased consensus of that greater period is that it was more on the flat side.

I think that Murali is farther above the greatest spinner peaks compared to Marshall I think being eclipsed for a seamer peak by Imran. Comparing Marshall to Murali directly is probably a bit of a fools errand.

Murali was goat but sl pitches like indian pitches always have something for spinners except ssc

 

[Migara]

General unbiased consensus of that greater period is that it was more on the flat side.

I think that Murali is farther above the greatest spinner peaks compared to Marshall I think being eclipsed for a seamer peak by Imran. Comparing Marshall to Murali directly is probably a bit of a fools errand.

It looks like you have used fraction of the grey matter to understand the comment. Murali was consistent, just like Marshall or Hadlee. He has a peak that is overlooked because of the argument he bowled on dustbowls. Now add the new argument that he achieved this insane peak bowling on absolute roads. Now that is pushing him to Marshall territory. No one compares Murali and Marshall directly for their peaks.

 

[shortpitched713]

It looks like you have used fraction of the grey matter to understand the comment. Murali was consistent, just like Marshall or Hadlee. He has a peak that is overlooked because of the argument he bowled on dustbowls. Now add the new argument that he achieved this insane peak bowling on absolute roads. Now that is pushing him to Marshall territory. No one compares Murali and Marshall directly for their peaks.

No, I do actually think that already that Murali is in the same tier arguably better for peak period than Marshall (but this gets into what is valued and the advantages / disadvantages inherent to seamer vs spinner which I don't want to get into). It just isn't pushing the argument for Sanga that much, if both him and Murali played on roads, which I generally believe the tracks of the time were.

Punter was of course also playing on absolute roads in Australia (arguably even a bit more roady).

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Ponting, in the recent test said that he never ever really thought about having a peak in test cricket.

 

[Bolo.]

Ponting, in the recent test said that he never ever really thought about having a peak in test cricket.

A big part of being a top player is confidence in your abilities. A lot of players will simply have the idea that they are that good.

 

[Bolo.]

No, I do actually think that already that Murali is in the same tier arguably better for peak period than Marshall (but this gets into what is valued and the advantages / disadvantages inherent to seamer vs spinner which I don't want to get into). It just isn't pushing the argument for Sanga that much, if both him and Murali played on roads, which I generally believe the tracks of the time were.

Punter was of course also playing on absolute roads in Australia (arguably even a bit more roady).

I think that Murali's peak was comfortably better than Marshall's (or anyone else's).

This said, Murali had an easy job of bowling at home. Pitches were not dustbowls, but they were still more spin friendly than most of the world. This is particularly true for spinners who didn't rely on bounce.

Sanga also had an easy job. The fact that pitches offered turn notwithstanding, they were generally roady. They offered very little to quicks, who were most (and most of the best) of visiting bowlers.

The idea of a road/dustbowl dichotomy is basically being kept alive on CW as an accusation that people are saying it. It has mostly been a strawman for years. You don't see people say a spinner has it easy on a greentop, despite bats having it hard. Pitches are not just easy or hard for bowling.