Most overrated match performances

[GIMH]

Stokes at Headingley 2019. Had a slog, dropped catches, missed run out, plumb lbw not given.

Played amazing shots. Hit the ball too hard to catch. it was Leach who was nearly run out. Should have reviewed the lbw.

 

[Starfighter]

Think this is going to have to be one of those "agree to disagree" things as my take on "softness" in a player is so far from yours.

To my thinking "soft" is a batsman who doesn't fancy it when the seamers are turning up the knots or a quick shirking because they have a twinge.

Yeah it's a bit like the distinction some make between choking and panicking.

 

[mr_mister]

Is Maxwell soft? Feel like he's one of the least qualified going by BoyBrumbys definition but arguably one of the most qualified going by Jedi's definition

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Played amazing shots. Hit the ball too hard to catch. it was Leach who was nearly run out. Should have reviewed the lbw.

They couldn’t because they’d burned all of them, the bloody drongos

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Everything about Stokes’s LBW at Headingly was hilarious, but Root’s just gone was umpire’s call on leg stump as well as height, you wouldn’t expect to get that given on field

Stokes at Headingley 2019. Had a slog, dropped catches, missed run out, plumb lbw not given.
Root in the test match just gone. LBW not given before he reached 20. Dud attack, SL playing away.
Tendulkar Sydney 2004. Flat deck, weak attack. So he didn't play a cover drive. Whacko.
Dean Jones Chennai tied test. Ordinary Indian attack, a zillion other tons scored in that game. Weak as piss with his carrying on, as TOTAB pointed out at the time.

 

[GIMH]

Everything about Stokes’s LBW at Headingly was hilarious, but Root’s just gone was umpire’s call on leg stump as well as height, you wouldn’t expect to get that given on field

Don’t mind him mate, he’s a buffoon

 

[Ali TT]

Stokes at Headingley 2019. Had a slog, dropped catches, missed run out, plumb lbw not given.
Root in the test match just gone. LBW not given before he reached 20. Dud attack, SL playing away.
Tendulkar Sydney 2004. Flat deck, weak attack. So he didn't play a cover drive. Whacko.
Dean Jones Chennai tied test. Ordinary Indian attack, a zillion other tons scored in that game. Weak as piss with his carrying on, as TOTAB pointed out at the time.

Stokes ODI WC final obv. Dug himself into a hole (while Buttler took all the responsibility to score at a decent clip), holed out to Boult as soon as he tried to lift the tempo (awarded 6 runs). Takes a risky two in the last over (awarded 6 runs). Completely bottles it the last 2 balls when needing 3 off 2. This is considered a clutch innings btw.

All the crazy makes the Stokes's innings greater. Would've been ****ing dull if he'd cover drove and leg glanced his way through them.

 

[thierry henry]

Is Maxwell soft? Feel like he's one of the least qualified going by BoyBrumbys definition but arguably one of the most qualified going by Jedi's definition

Feel like it's really hard to define, particularly in cricket, because you can be "clutch" by having literally no brain whatsoever, no capacity to even recognise the match situation you're in or the risks of your approach, and just going out there and having a bosh and having it come off.

Or, you can bat very conscientiously and be "tough and gritty" and nick one and be deemed a choker.

I mean, this is basically modern cricket in a nutshell, the dumbest and most weak-gutted dogs are the biggest matchwinners and being "tough" means nothing (it's all McCullum's fault btw).

 

[TheJediBrah]

Is Maxwell soft? Feel like he's one of the least qualified going by BoyBrumbys definition but arguably one of the most qualified going by Jedi's definition

Would have to consult the latest DSM to categorise Maxwell's mental state

 

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Any Jadeja performance

 

[ImpatientLime]

tendulkars 241*

ohhhhhh look at me i scored a double ton on an absolute road against a mcgrath and warne-less australia without playing a single cover drive

grow up

 

[wpdavid]

Caddick's four wickets in one over at Headingley in 2000. It wasn't even the best spell in that innings.

 

[Isura]

Walter Hammond's 32 on a sticky wicket. I mean 32 is not that many runs

 

[Isura]

Aravinda's 100 in the wc final. The semifinal knock was top notch. In general most wc final hundreds are massively overrated.

 

[Ali TT]

Not a single match but going to put forward Warne's 40 wickets in the 2005 Ashes. Not knocking it as a great effort but he picked up 15 cheap wickets off England's pretty hapless tail, tonned up 4 times (and conceded 99 another time) and was smashed around in the first innings as England massed up big totals at Egblaston, OT and TB.

 

[Starfighter]

but he picked up 15 cheap wickets off England's pretty hapless tail

That's like, a pretty normal proportion.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Not a single match but going to put forward Warne's 40 wickets in the 2005 Ashes. Not knocking it as a great effort but he picked up 15 cheap wickets off England's pretty hapless tail, tonned up 4 times (and conceded 99 another time) and was smashed around in the first innings as England massed up big totals at Egblaston, OT and TB.

Did it with an untampered ball though

 

[Coronis]

Walter Hammond's 32 on a sticky wicket. I mean 32 is not that many runs

When the entire innings score is 79 with 7 extras, 32 runs is a lot of runs.

 

[AndrewB]

When the entire innings score is 79 with 7 extras, 32 runs is a lot of runs.

From the same match, Bradman's 270 being rated by Wisden the greatest innings of all time, largely (AFAICT) because the scores in the match had been low up to that point - but by the time he came in, the wicket had become pretty easy to bat on; hence Fingleton managed to stay with him for 6 hours.
Obviously it's a great innings, but even just looking at innings by Bradman, it's not clear why it should be ranked above, say, his Headingley 300s, and Bradman himself always rated his 254 at Lord's as his best. It's not even clear that it was his best innings in that series - he scored 212 in the 4th Test after coming in with Australia still 20 behind, as opposed to 220 ahead.

 

[Coronis]

From the same match, Bradman's 270 being rated by Wisden the greatest innings of all time, largely (AFAICT) because the scores in the match had been low up to that point - but by the time he came in, the wicket had become pretty easy to bat on; hence Fingleton managed to stay with him for 6 hours.
Obviously it's a great innings, but even just looking at innings by Bradman, it's not clear why it should be ranked above, say, his Headingley 300s, and Bradman himself always rated his 254 at Lord's as his best. It's not even clear that it was his best innings in that series - he scored 212 in the 4th Test after coming in with Australia still 20 behind, as opposed to 220 ahead.

Yeah that’s fair. His tactics being the reason for them being in that position and also having the flu probably influence that decision.

Quite disappointed with England’s second innings tbh. Timeless test, they had a wicket that was by all reports still excellent and just batted way too aggressively.