Ravichandran Ashwin vs Hedley Verity

[PlayerComparisons]

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[ma1978]

Here come the edgelords of black and white cricket

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I think Ashwins probably done enough to be the fourth best spinner of all time

 

[shortpitched713]

Certainly.

He has a mountain more Tests played than O'Reilly also, for once he summits the current mountain.

 

[Coronis]

Here come the edgelords of black and white cricket

As opposed to the edgelords of only modern cricket matters.

 

[howitzer]

I'm going to wait until Jasprit Bumrah Ravichandran Ashwin has finished his career before making a judgement on this. @SillyCowCorner1

 

[sayon basak]

Verity dismissed don 8 times at an average of only 50.

Still leaning towards Ashwin as he has got a much accomplished test career.

 

[h_hurricane]

Verity dismissed don 8 times at an average of only 50.

Still leaning towards Ashwin as he has got a much accomplished test career.

Are these averages reliable ? It will only tell you the score on which a bowler has dismissed a batsman. It does not tell you the runs the batsman has scored against an individual bowler on the occasions the bowler has dismissed the batsman. Also misses out on the innings the bowler hasn't dismissed the batsman, but runs have been scored off. It is also very hard (probably impossible) to get ball by ball analysis of very old matches.

 

[the big bambino]

Are these averages reliable ? It will only tell you the score on which a bowler has dismissed a batsman. It does not tell you the runs the batsman has scored against an individual bowler on the occasions the bowler has dismissed the batsman. Also misses out on the innings the bowler hasn't dismissed the batsman, but runs have been scored off. It is also very hard (probably impossible) to get ball by ball analysis of very old matches.

they aren't the cricinfo averages but the actual runs conceded by Verity to Bradman. he bowes and bedser had the best averages against bradman.

 

[sayon basak]

Also misses out on the innings the bowler hasn't dismissed the batsman, but runs have been scored off. It is also very hard (probably impossible) to get ball by ball analysis of very old matches.

Verity bowled 932 deliveries to Bradman, conceded 404 runs and dismissed him 8 times. Doesn't seem very hard to me.

 

[sayon basak]

they aren't the cricinfo averages but the actual runs conceded by Verity to Bradman. he bowes and bedser had the best averages against bradman.

Yeah

 

[the big bambino]

I'm not really across the Info icon as an alternative to the Like button. I mean what extra information do people want? I can tell people the amount of runs each of the main English bowlers conceded to Bradman and would dig them out if that's what posters would like. So for example Larwood's figures v Bradman are 5 wickets for 324 runs at an average of 65. The discrepancy between his bodyline average against his average when bowling normally is quite stark. When bowling bodyline his Bradman average is 29. Without it's 209. No wonder Jardine felt as if he had to do something.

 

[the big bambino]

@sayon basak do you have a question to ask? What Info would you like?

 

[sayon basak]

@sayon basak do you have a question to ask? What Info would you like?

1)What are the chances of Kane Williamson overtaking Steve Smith in terms of career average?
2)Can Joe Root surpass Sachin in terms of test runs?
3) will Bumrah end up being the best bowler of all time?

 

[the big bambino]

1)What are the chances of Kane Williamson overtaking Steve Smith in terms of career average?
2)Can Joe Root surpass Sachin in terms of test runs?
3) will Bumrah end up being the best bowler of all time?

No.

 

[sayon basak]

No.

Last question (believe me). Was Murali a chucker?

 

[the big bambino]

To a degree.

 

[sayon basak]

To a degree.

More than 15 degrees?

 

[the big bambino]

Must have been. I mean we've been told the human eye can't detect a bend less than that yet Hair called him and subsequent testing confirmed what he saw ...

 

[shortpitched713]

Must have been. I mean we've been told the human eye can't detect a bend less than that yet Hair called him and subsequent testing confirmed what he saw ...

I don't give a tinker's damn what convicted thief Darrel Hair and a pack of racists within Australia's cricket establishment had to say about the legality of Murali's action.

Once the rule in the ICC was fixed to allow for an objective ruling across all players, instead of being vulnerable to subjective interpretations of racist gatekeepers, Murali's action was found to be legal, and cricket has been all the better for its reforms from the dark ages into modernity.