Ravichandran Ashwin vs Jim Laker

[Xix2565]

Except I have pounded on Ashwin in SENA for over a year. If you don't want to take me at face value and accuse me of 'anti-India,' go for it.

So? That just means you've been unreasonable and partisan for over a year. It doesn't validate your points at all.

 

[subshakerz]

So? That just means you've been unreasonable and partisan for over a year. It doesn't validate your points at all.

You think I am being 'anti-India' then? That this is my bias? Please clarify.

 

[Xix2565]

You think I am being 'anti-India' then? That this is my bias? Please clarify.

Your bias is against certain cricketers you don't like personally and so you make up all sorts of 'reasons' by twisting context and facts. That Ashwin is Indian isn't relevant, you behave just like this for players who aren't Indian/Pakistani.

 

[Xix2565]

You see two poor away records and decided that only one is terrible while the other is good. This is not being logical or reasonable. You ignore the general pitches they played on away from home, comparisons with their peers and so on. Again, no logic involved.

 

[subshakerz]

That Ashwin is Indian isn't relevant, you behave just like this for players who aren't Indian/Pakistani.

Great glad we clarified that. Please note @honestbharani

You see two poor away records and decided that only one is terrible while the other is good. This is not being logical or reasonable. You ignore the general pitches they played on away from home, comparisons with their peers and so on. Again, no logic involved.

I genuinely don't think Laker is poor overall away. His record against a strong WI lineup is decent and a good series in Aus. SA yes poor but overall not worse than Ashwin in SENA who had many more chances.

At home he averages better than Ashwin with a super SR for his time, yes on very supportive wickets.

Overall I lean Laker based on the above.

 

[Xix2565]

I genuinely don't think Laker is poor overall away. His record against a strong WI lineup is decent and a good series in Aus. SA yes poor but overall not worse than Ashwin in SENA who had many more chances.

At home he averages better than Ashwin with a super SR for his time, yes on very supportive wickets.

Overall I lean Laker based on the above.

No, Laker's record is unacceptable given he barely played away from home and didn't have the wide variety of conditions and oppositions. It's atrocious and an anchor as far as rating him goes. At home he had far more help and couldn't give more than what Ashwin has, so he's hardly as impressive of a home bully. Inferior on all counts.

 

[subshakerz]

No, Laker's record is unacceptable given he barely played away from home and didn't have the wide variety of conditions and oppositions. It's atrocious and an anchor as far as rating him goes. At home he had far more help and couldn't give more than what Ashwin has, so he's hardly as impressive of a home bully. Inferior on all counts.

Lakers away samples were good enough for me given the era. Like I said, his stats are better at home anyways so we can adjust them to relatively equal

 

[Xix2565]

Lakers away samples were good enough for me given the era. Like I said, his stats are better at home anyways so we can adjust them to relatively equal

Not for me, he was basically safeguarded from real tests and when he did play he was terrible in comparison. There is nothing here beyond 19 wickets that puts him close to Ashwin. Ashwin also has managed 5.16 WPM despite his away record.

 

[subshakerz]

Not for me, he was basically safeguarded from real tests and when he did play he was terrible in comparison. There is nothing here beyond 19 wickets that puts him close to Ashwin. Ashwin also has managed 5.16 WPM despite his away record.

Ok so we can politely disagree.

 

[kyear2]

Because it doesn't follow what you are alleging. anyways...

No, because that's a toxic ass subject that drew me into defending you last time. Not getting involved with you and that again.

 

[subshakerz]

No, because that's a toxic ass subject that drew me into defending you last time. Not getting involved with you and that again.

Thanks, for the record.