Butterfly effect. If Akram would’ve grown up in Australia he would’ve grown up to be a different bowler according to the conditions. Same with respect to McgrathSwitch the teams..
Akram playing for Australia with top quality fielders like Junior, Ponting, Symonds.. Etc
And McGrath with the likes of Inzy...
For me I've just come to the conclusion that M&M are the openers and any of about 4 options can full the 3rd slot. Wasim is one of them, just based on skill and ability.
Wasn't Donald was finished by then? Shoaib and Pollock toured once in their peaks sure. Are we comparing that with multiple tours of Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop, Wasim, Waqar, Donald, Pollock, Fanie, etc.
Nice try but Wasim had Lara, Tendulkar, Waugh bros, Crowe, Gooch, Border, Kirsten, Langer, Gilly, Dravid, DeSilva, Haynes off the top of my head. Like I said, very much debatable.
If we assume same skillsets, Akram thrives more.
I literally said that abiut Donald in my post. Yes thats the whole point, those bowlers played there and still came away with very respectable series, unlike Australia.
I dont think you dispute that there was more worldclass bowling presence touring Aus in the 90s than the 2000s, yes? That's the obvious point that you seem to be disputing.
Dude, you don't seem to be able to follow your own arguments. Please check a couple pages ago. You said McGrath played better bats in his peak (not particular to where) when comparing to Wasim's peak to which I countered. And if you don't like Langer, then put Slater or Taylor.
Thats not the point I’m disputing. The whole thing is about their home conditions during their peaks which you seem to have forgotten. You know, you claiming that Pakistan had worse pitches for pace which is just not true. Multiple ATG pacers toured Australia in that period and they all did horribly. And ATG pacers in Wasim’s era did just fine, remember Pakistan also had a pretty decent batting llineup then too.
Like for rating Steyn above Mcgrath(which I don’t hold personally but I like as an opinion since Steyn is so ****ing good)
If you don't dispute it, they acknowledge it. It's not just flat pitches, but less worldclass pacers (no Wasim, Waqar, Ambrose or fit Donald) and an ATG batting lineup all the way to 2007/8 in Aus that all contributed to the bowling average differential in Aus. So it's not by itself evidence that Pak pitches were more pace friendly.
I’m not saying he would’ve excelled there, but Mcgrath faced some pretty incompetent umpiring there too
I have. Apparently you haven’t seen a game in Australia in the 00’s aka the flattest pitches in 70 years where multiple ATG bowlers in their peaks ended up averaging 40 odd lol.
Yes we've seen the clip.
Which ATG bowlers are you talking about?
Ooh yes multiple ATGs such as Walsh who sucked in every Aus series in the 80s and 90s prior to that, a career end Donald, and yes peak Pollock and Shoaib each in single series (Pollock was post peak in 2005).
