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Which bowling combination will you pick for your Team ?
- Thread starter Sunil1z
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HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Perhaps the second one as I feel with Akram’s reverse and left arm angle, it is more rounded. Good comparison tho
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Number two easily. You could argue they are even superior on bowling alone.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
They are definitely better rounded as a bowling unit
shortpitched713
International Captain
Just because they have Wasim, as a lefty in there?
Is that really all it takes to round out a bowling attack, throwing in a token lefty?
Brook's side
International Regular
I think this is about the first row being 4 nr 11s and the 2nd row being 4 decent bats, but there's nothing to pick between them in terms of bowling anyway. McGrath over Pollock, Hadlee over Walsh, the others even.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
No that’s what differentiates them from the other attack in this situation
shortpitched713
International Captain
Walsh for me, really brings down the quality for the batting bunnies, for mine.
If we had Garner in his place on the top team, I could see myself easily voting for it.
If we had Garner in his place on the top team, I could see myself easily voting for it.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Walsh is Pollock level.
McGrath is Hadlee level.
Wasim is Donald level.
Murali is Warne level.
Coronis
International Coach
Garner is already in that side for his batting though.
sayon basak
International Debutant
No. Warne is murali level
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
It's all the same to me.
shortpitched713
International Captain
Of those I'd say Pollock is mad underrated, so for me that makes it easier to go for the tailed better batsmen side.
kyear2
International Coach
Still think he's top 5 all time?
shortpitched713
International Captain
As a bowler only? Then no.
Top 5 proper all-rounders (i.e not batting all-rounders), definitely.
kyear2
International Coach
What the hell is a proper all rounder?
Becuse by definition that would have to be someone who would get chosen for either their batting or bowling. Top of my head can only think of 4 of those and Pollock isn't one.
shortpitched713
International Captain
"Proper all-rounder" is just a pet definition of mine to classify allrounders who could reasonably be expected to carry a top 4 bowling spot on one of the "ATG" teams, as opposed to batting all-rounders that couldn't.
It's useful to separate Miller/Botham types who could with Kallis and Sobers, who could only take a position 5. Then there are others like Pollock and Imran who could get in as specialists alone, but they have an extra premium due to batting. And this is draft land by the way, where trust me you run out of specialist bowlers fast, so snatching up all viable specialist bowlers is important, so you need to understand where value might be at every bowling position 1-4(5), so you don't end up with Grieg/Sobers/Mankad or some "nominal allrounders" like that taking up one or more proper bowling spots on your side.
In this land, Shaun Pollock easily gets chosen for his bowling.
The "straddle" guys end up being Miller, Botham, Dev, Jadeja (question-marks on his viability as a lead spinner but otherwise has incredible stats).
It's useful to separate Miller/Botham types who could with Kallis and Sobers, who could only take a position 5. Then there are others like Pollock and Imran who could get in as specialists alone, but they have an extra premium due to batting. And this is draft land by the way, where trust me you run out of specialist bowlers fast, so snatching up all viable specialist bowlers is important, so you need to understand where value might be at every bowling position 1-4(5), so you don't end up with Grieg/Sobers/Mankad or some "nominal allrounders" like that taking up one or more proper bowling spots on your side.
In this land, Shaun Pollock easily gets chosen for his bowling.
The "straddle" guys end up being Miller, Botham, Dev, Jadeja (question-marks on his viability as a lead spinner but otherwise has incredible stats).
kyear2
International Coach
So if they could be reasonably expected to make a top 4 bowling spot, which Sobers did btw...
Shouldn't they be equally be able to fill a top 6 batting spot?
Seems fair.
shortpitched713
International Captain
It's a definition borne from comparative scarcities that exist in constructing draft teams. You don't need to overthink the "proper all-rounder" thing.
Also, I know what Sobers accomplished and his phenomenal load as a bowler during his career. He's never holding a top 4 bowling spot on one of the kinds of sides we're discussing (let's say a tournament with the top top 100ish best Test cricketers of all time).
