All-time Australia XIs - A re-run

[CricAddict]

Looks like Johnson's stocks have plunged since retirement.

Australia XI:	Australia A	Australia B	Australia C	Australia D
1. RB Simpson	1. VT Trumper	1. AR Morris	1. JL Langer	1. WM Woodfull
2. ML Hayden	2. WM Lawry	2. WH Ponsford	2. SG Barnes	2. UT Khawaja
3. DG Bradman *	3. RT Ponting	3. C Hill	3. CG Macartney	3. DC Boon
4. SPD Smith	4. RN Harvey	4. SJ McCabe	4. AL Hassett *	4. IM Chappell
5. GS Chappell	5. AR Border *	5. MJ Clarke	5. MEK Hussey
6. KR Miller	6. SR Waugh	6. KD Walters	6. MA Noble
7. AC Gilchrist +	7. IA Healy +	7. RW Marsh +	7. JM Gregory	7. BJ Haddin +
8. SK Warne	8. AK Davidson	8. RB Benaud *	8. WAS Oldfield +	8. MG Johnson
9. WJ Reilly	9. RR Lindwall	9. JN Gillespie	9. CBT Turner
10. DK Lillee	10. PJ Cummins *13	10. WA Johnston	10. NM Lyon	10. CJ McDermott
11. GD McGrath	11. CV Grimmett	11. FR Spofforth	11. JR Hazlewood

 

[CricAddict]

Please choose the below.

1. Number 5 batsman for the side
2. Third pacer/spinner
3. Fourth bowler (either pacer or spinner)
4. Best fit at number 6 based on above selections

 

[ataraxia]

Martyn

McKenzie
Trumble

Armstrong

 

[Teuton]

M.Waugh
McKenzie
Trumble
Armstrong

 

[Fuller Pilch]

M.Waugh
Reiffel
Trumble
Armstrong

 

[trundler]

Norm O'Neill
McKenzie
Trumble
Armstrong

 

[Bitmap]

Norm O'Neill
McKenzie
Trumble
Armstrong

This for me

 

[Line and Length]

O'Neill
McKenzie
I.Johnson
M.Waugh

 

[Qlder]

Jones
Thomson
McGill
M. Waugh

 

[capt_Luffy]

Waugh
McKenzie
Trumble
Armstrong

 

[Flametree]

Martyn
Harris
Trumble
Ryder

 

[Qlder]

Please choose the below.

1. Number 5 batsman for the side
2. Third pacer
3. Fourth bowler (either pacer or spinner)
4. Best fit at number 6 based on above selections

It's working out ok but something's off with the bowler questions. Every other team we have been requested to nominate a spinner and 4th bowler is optional pacer/spinner. This one allows us to pick 4 pacers

 

[CricAddict]

It's working out ok but something's off with the bowler questions. Every other team we have been requested to nominate a spinner and 4th bowler is optional pacer/spinner. This one allows us to pick 4 pacers

Yes, I actually missed Trumble but in general, I am assuming that once the first few teams are gone, the following teams in general go with 4 pacers plus a spinning all-rounder a lot due dearth of quality spinners. Hence, I have left that option as well open to the voters instead of having to vote mandatorily for an inferior spinner.

 

[Qlder]

Australia has pretty much always gone with a spinner and you've still got Trumble, I. Johnson, Mailey, Mallett, Yardley, Higgs, Bright, May, Holland, McGill, C.Miller, Matthews...

Having them compete with a 4th pacer just doesn't seem right but maybe that's just me

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yes, I actually missed Trumble but in general, I am assuming that once the first few teams are gone, the following teams in general go with 4 pacers plus a spinning all-rounder a lot due dearth of quality spinners. Hence, I have left that option as well open to the voters instead of having to vote mandatorily for an inferior spinner.

Then you should leave the position open for a second spinner as well imo..... Can see situations where it can be utilised with a pacer allrounder.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Australia has pretty much always gone with a spinner and you've still got Trumble, I. Johnson, Mailey, Mallett, Yardley, Higgs, Bright, May, Holland, McGill, C.Miller, Matthews...

Having them compete with a 4th pacer just doesn't seem right but maybe that's just me

Ironmonger, Iverson, Palmer, Saunders, Hordern, McCool, O'Keefe, Fleetwood-Smith, Gleeson, Dooland.....

 

[CricAddict]

Understood. I have edited the second question to be third pacer/spinner instead of just pacer.

 

[Teuton]

how about making the first questions for a team something like:
1. Name the best two top 6 players
2. Name the best two bowlers

then tailor subsequent questions around the results

I do agree that all teams should have at least 2 pace bowlers & 1 spinner with flexibility for the 4th bowler and 5th bowler (allrounder) slot

 

[CricAddict]

how about making the first questions for a team something like:
1. Name the best two top 6 players
2. Name the best two bowlers

then tailor subsequent questions around the results

I do agree that all teams should have at least 2 pace bowlers & 1 spinner with flexibility for the 4th bowler and 5th bowler (allrounder) slot

Done. Will do this from the next team.

 

[CricAddict]

Below are the final four players for Australia D. With a tie for number 5 batsman, I am voting for M.Waugh who also got a few votes for number 6 position.

Total votes	36
Total voters	9
Martyn	2
M.Waugh	3
Norm O'Neill	3
Jones	1
McKenzie	6
Trumble	7
Reiffel	1
I.Johnson	1
Thomson	1
McGill	1
Harris	1
Armstrong	6
M.Waugh	2
Ryder	1