Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Why shouldn't Wessels be included? He did better for Australia (averaged 43 from 24 tests and did superbly against the Windies) than for SA (averaged 38 from 16 tests).
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All time Australia XIs - a discussion
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capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
I mean, I would rather not have any player repeating for two countries. So given Wessels played for Australia just because SA was banned and switched to SA the moment he can, I would rather have him for Saffa
Coronis
International Coach
Yet you rate Trumper so highly.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
As an overall batsman, yes.
Coronis
International Coach
So its convenient to ignore his mediocre opening and pick him as an opener, yet not convenient to ignore Khawaja’s mediocre middle order batting and pick him as an opener. Makes sense. I like your consistency.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Thanks.
kyear2
International Coach
Ummmmm
Coronis
International Coach
Confused?
kyear2
International Coach
Fully agree with you
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
1. Pat Cummins has got promoted from Australia N to Australia A in 6 years. How good is that? Was he under-rated earlier or over-rated now? Or rightly rated based on his achievements in the 6 years?
2. Allan Border had lost the captaincy earlier to Don Bradman and wins it now over S Waugh
3. First team is more of specialist cricketers while the second team bats deep with quite a few all-rounders and part-timers. In a match between the two, will the first team smash them or will be made to work hard for the win?
That's three for the discussion group.
2. Allan Border had lost the captaincy earlier to Don Bradman and wins it now over S Waugh
3. First team is more of specialist cricketers while the second team bats deep with quite a few all-rounders and part-timers. In a match between the two, will the first team smash them or will be made to work hard for the win?
That's three for the discussion group.
| Australia XI: | Australia A |
1. RB Simpson  | 1. VT Trumper |
| 2. ML Hayden | 2. WM Lawry |
| 3. DG Bradman * | 3. RT Ponting |
| 4. SPD Smith | 4. RN Harvey |
| 5. GS Chappell | 5. AR Border * |
| 6. KR Miller | 6. SR Waugh |
| 7. AC Gilchrist + | 7. IA Healy + |
| 8. SK Warne | 8. AK Davidson |
| 9. WJ Reilly | 9. RR Lindwall |
| 10. DK Lillee | 10. PJ Cummins |
| 11. GD McGrath | 11. CV Grimmett |
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
The pacers are one team down (expected given Cummins) while all the 3 middle order greats retain their positions.
| Australia XI: | Australia A | Australia B |
| 1. RB Simpson | 1. VT Trumper | |
| 2. ML Hayden | 2. WM Lawry | |
| 3. DG Bradman * | 3. RT Ponting | 3. C Hill |
| 4. SPD Smith | 4. RN Harvey | 4. SJ McCabe |
| 5. GS Chappell | 5. AR Border * | 5. MJ Clarke |
| 6. KR Miller | 6. SR Waugh | |
| 7. AC Gilchrist + | 7. IA Healy + | |
| 8. SK Warne | 8. AK Davidson | |
| 9. WJ Reilly | 9. RR Lindwall | 9. JN Gillespie |
| 10. DK Lillee | 10. PJ Cummins | |
| 11. GD McGrath | 11. CV Grimmett | 11. FR Spofforth |
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
| Australia XI: | Australia A | Australia B |
| 1. RB Simpson | 1. VT Trumper | 1. AR Morris |
| 2. ML Hayden | 2. WM Lawry | 2. WH Ponsford |
| 3. DG Bradman * | 3. RT Ponting | 3. C Hill |
| 4. SPD Smith | 4. RN Harvey | 4. SJ McCabe |
| 5. GS Chappell | 5. AR Border * | 5. MJ Clarke |
| 6. KR Miller | 6. SR Waugh | |
| 7. AC Gilchrist + | 7. IA Healy + | 7. RW Marsh + |
| 8. SK Warne | 8. AK Davidson | |
| 9. WJ Reilly | 9. RR Lindwall | 9. JN Gillespie |
| 10. DK Lillee | 10. PJ Cummins | |
| 11. GD McGrath | 11. CV Grimmett | 11. FR Spofforth |
Anthony Clayden
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
So is Grimmet really a Kiwi?? Had no option to play for NZ
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, Grum had close to no chance to play for NZ, as did Ranji for India. And well, there are many more Saffas who switched nationalities during the Apartheid era and never represented SA, like Greig and Lamb. I think Wessels is different only because he actually played for two countries and if I had to choose, it looks like the latter came much more natural to him.
Coronis
International Coach
Tbh it would’ve been hilarious if after Bradman had him dropped for the Ashes Grimmett came back and destroyed Australia with a New Zealand side - though they actually never played tests against Australia until after the war.
Coronis
International Coach
Should’ve started a law firm together.With Johnson and Johnston currently getting votes as 3rd seamer, I hope people check their auto spellchecker
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Well he could've waited...
His 1st test for Australia was in 1925, while NZ's 1st test was in 1930.
the big bambino
International Captain
This could've theoretically happened in 39/40 when Grimmett's form was very good. Australia were due to play NZ but of course the war. Even if it went ahead Grimmett would've played for Australia. But if he was able to elect to play for the Kiwis they would've fielded Cowie, Pritchard and Grimmett against us and that would've been pretty interesting.