Red_Ink_Squid
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My order hasn't changed.
Imran averaged just under 16 from 1980-86 . It's by far the best modern bowler peak of all time, in terms of average, as far as I'm aware.Waqar Younis took 184 Wickets at an Average of 18.49 from 1990-1994
Imran-1980-1986- 184 Wickets - 15.93 Average, Sydney Barnes-Entire Career- 189 Wickets - 16.43 Average. Imran missed 1984 due to an Injury.Imran averaged just under 16 from 1980-86 . It's by far the best modern bowler peak of all time, in terms of average, as far as I'm aware.
It's funny, because I made a thread with this premise in which I was certain Waqar had the best peak, but I was wrong. Waqar still did end up having the best peak strike rate, but had multiple modern bowlers ahead of him for average, including Imran, Muralist, and Marshall.
Find a better bowler peak (min 33 Tests) than this (protip, you can't)
Yeah During that peak, he also averaged 22 away in 23 matches, including 19 in Australia. So I don’t think you can blame the umpires for that. Also with an away average of 42 with the bat during that time…www.cricketweb.net
I mean, Barnes was far from modern. The game he played may as well have been ghilli danda for how little Test cricket of that time resembles really modern cricket... Even a lot of really skilled club bowlers couldn't get away with now bowling drifting medium pace cutters, which was by all reports the style of Barnes when he played.Imran-1980-1986- 184 Wickets - 15.93 Average, Sydney Barnes-Entire Career- 189 Wickets - 16.43 Average. Imran missed 1984 due to an Injury.
what do you say if Imran was benefitted from Pakistani Umpires ?I mean, Barnes was far from modern. The game he played may as well have been ghilli danda for how little Test cricket of that time resembles really modern cricket... Even a lot of really skilled club bowlers couldn't get away with now bowling drifting medium pace cutters, which was by all reports the style of Barnes when he played.
Imran's peak is well ahead of Waqar's.Imran averaged just under 16 from 1980-86 . It's by far the best modern bowler peak of all time, in terms of average, as far as I'm aware.
It's funny, because I made a thread with this premise in which I was certain Waqar had the best peak, but I was wrong. Waqar still did end up having the best peak strike rate, but had multiple modern bowlers ahead of him for average, including Imran, Murali, and Marshall.
Find a better bowler peak (min 33 Tests) than this (protip, you can't)
Yeah During that peak, he also averaged 22 away in 23 matches, including 19 in Australia. So I don’t think you can blame the umpires for that. Also with an away average of 42 with the bat during that time…www.cricketweb.net
And Barnes only played in half the tests he could’ve due to issues with the establishment and wanting to get his fair pay.Imran-1980-1986- 184 Wickets - 15.93 Average, Sydney Barnes-Entire Career- 189 Wickets - 16.43 Average. Imran missed 1984 due to an Injury.
what @shortpitched713 is saying is Barnes cricket was different from what is played in the Modern Era.And Barnes only played in half the tests he could’ve due to issues with the establishment and wanting to get his fair pay.
So? That wasn’t what your post or mine were aboutwhat @shortpitched713 is saying is Barnes cricket was different from what is played in the Modern Era.
I personally feel Imran and Waqar's achievements are far superior to what a player achieved before WW2. Barnes played during WW1.So? That wasn’t what your post or mine were about
Imran and Waqar did that in what was their peak years, that was Barnes whole career. Barnes still have the most statistically dominant series of any bowler by an outlandish margin.I personally feel Imran and Waqar's achievements are far superior to what a player achieved before WW2. Barnes played during WW1.
@capt_Luffy do you know when Sydney Barnes played Cricket ?Imran and Waqar did that in what was their peak years, that was Barnes whole career. Barnes still have the most statistically dominant series of any bowler by an outlandish margin.
Internationally: 1907-1914 I believe@capt_Luffy do you know when Sydney Barnes played Cricket ?
Cricket players in those years were still amateur and not professionals. Its not even a right comparison. I rate Waqar's Achievement in early 90s as way more superior to even Imran's peak years and in general both their achievements far superior.Internationally: 1907-1914 I believe
Barnes was totally professional.Cricket players in those years were still amateur and not professionals. Its not even a right comparison. I rate Waqar's Achievement in early 90s as way more superior to even Imran's peak years and in general both their achievements far superior.
Amateur or Professional he is no comparison to Waqar. Time Travel and bring Barnes and Waqar now and ask them to bowl you will know the truth.Barnes was totally professional.
Yeah, no. Thats not how it works. I am afraid my time machine ran out of battery a few days prior and the shop near my house don't have any Duracells.....Amateur or Professional he is no comparison to Waqar. Time Travel and bring Barnes and Waqar now and ask them to bowl you will know the truth.
Jokes are Jokes and Facts remain Facts.Yeah, no. Thats not how it works. I am afraid my time machine ran out of battery a few days prior and the shop near my house don't have any Duracells.....