Best visiting Test batsmen in each country

[capt_Luffy]

Think he really only performed at Bourda and the QPO though.

Tbf to him he played in 4 grounds in total there, played in QPO the same amount of games he did in Sabina Park and Kensington combined and has scored 2 centuries in 2 matches and averages 327 in Bourda as well.....

 

[OverratedSanity]

Cook over Smith in India. India haven't lost at home since Cook's 3 century tour in 2012.

India's bowling attack in 2012 was dreadful. Smith faced a far superior one in 2017.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I would say Ben Stokes ahead of Kohli for South Africa cause he helped England win two tours from two with 700+ runs @52

Hmm, the pitches India have gotten have been really brutal. Kohli really stood out in some very low scoring games especially in 2018. It's between Kohli Waugh and Sachin for SA imo.

 

[Silver Silva]

Hmm, the pitches India have gotten have been really brutal. Kohli really stood out in some very low scoring games especially in 2018. It's between Kohli Waugh and Sachin for SA imo.

Fair enough, i guess Stokes would be the best all rounder to tour SA by a distance, he also took 22 wickets with the ball @25 ..Always left his best for the Saffas

 

[MexicanRiver]

Dravid or even Gooch over Gavaskar in WI. Dravid did well v Ambrose/Walsh before two iconic performances on Sabina Park minefields later in his career. Gooch scored over 50% of England's runs in tons at Sabina Park and Kensington Oval v ATG attacks.

S Waugh one of the best there. Very good v uneven bounce and iconic performances.

Would consider Ponting in SA. Think Kohli is the king there. Outstanding consistency on some demonic pitches v gun attacks.

Tendulkar in Australia. Viv wasn't ultra consistent there but in terms of skill set he's hard to look past.

Perhaps Martin Crowe in Pakistan. Very highly rated v reverse swing and has an elite hundred there v an ATG at the peak of his powers.

S Smith has to be in the England discussion for his 2019 tour. Sangakkara in NZ too. He has three world class hundreds there.

Don't think Ponting is better than Stokes in South Africa. And I will pick Greenidge in England as well.

 

[Silver Silva]

What about Larry Gomes from the West Indies for Australian pitches ?

He has an outstanding record in Australia..
844 runs in just 8 tests @70.33, and we know what a war zone Test cricket was during the 80's ..

He would have faced some pretty fearsome fast/swing bowlers..Lillee, Thomson,Pascoe, Hogg, Alderman etc

 

[Slifer]

According to you, who are the best visiting batsmen in each country? I will probably go with Top 4 in each:

England: Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Rahul Dravid, Steve Smith

Australia: Wally Hammond, Ken Barrington, Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton

West Indies: Steve Waugh, Mohinder Amarnath, Graham Gooch, Len Hutton

South Africa: Virat Kohli, Sachin Tendulkar, Steve Waugh, Jack Hobbs

India: Steve Smith, Clive Lloyd, Andy Flower, Alaistar Cook

Pakistan: Sunil Gavaskar, Allan Border, Sanath Jayasuriya, Virendra Sehwag

New Zealand: Javed Miandad, Greg Chappell, Allan Border, Kumar Sangakkara

Sri Lanka: Brian Lara, Stephen Fleming, Virendra Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar

Zimbabwe: Jacques Kallis, Marvanam Atapattu, Rahul Dravid, Younis Khan

Bangladesh: Sachin Tendulkar, Younis Khan, Kumar Sangakkara, Mahela Jayawardene

UAE (non Pakistainis) : AB de Villiers, Kumar Sangakkara, Kane Williamson, Angelo Mathews

UAE (Pakistanis) : Misbah Ul Haq, Younis Khan, Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq

I'd give RSA to : Waugh, Kohli and Warner from those I've seen.

 

[Zinzan]

According to you, who are the best visiting batsmen in each country? I will probably go with Top 4 in each:


Australia: Wally Hammond, Ken Barrington, Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton

In more modern times (post 1980) & with a qualification >500 runs ....

 

[TheJediBrah]

Michael Vaughan was in insane form 2002/03. Such a brief peak though

 

[centurymaker]

If you have played less than 9 or 10 Tests in Australia, you shouldn't even be considered. Too small a sample size.

Plus looking at averages over such a small sample even more strange/misleading.

 

[capt_Luffy]

If you have played less than 9 or 10 Tests in Australia, you shouldn't even be considered. Too small a sample size.

Plus looking at averages over such a small sample even more strange/misleading.

By this cut-off, most of top performers are going to be from England and only a few with very long careers like Tendulkar and Viv.

 

[Ali TT]

If you have played less than 9 or 10 Tests in Australia, you shouldn't even be considered. Too small a sample size.

Plus looking at averages over such a small sample even more strange/misleading.

Is that cut off just for Australia? Or other countries too?

 

[Line and Length]

Is that cut off just for Australia? Or other countries too?

Good point. It should be for all Test playing countries. However, having a 10 Test minimum is too restrictive.

 

[centurymaker]

You expect such a player to tour a country (like Australia) at least 3 times... that gives you 8-10 tests as a baseline.

Anything less than 3 complete tours is quite insufficient.

 

[centurymaker]

By this cut-off, most of top performers are going to be from England and only a few with very long careers like Tendulkar and Viv.

3 tours is not a lot. Can't judge a player over 1-2 tours alone..

We are not talking about mediocre players here. We are discussing the 'best', they ought to have played enough in that country over a reasonable period of time to be contenders for best visiting batsman

 

[capt_Luffy]

3 tours is not a lot. Can't judge a player over 1-2 tours alone..

We are not talking about mediocre players here. We are discussing the 'best', they ought to have played enough in that country over a reasonable period of time to be contenders for best visiting batsman

Depends imo how those 1-2 tours went. Lara only played 4 matches in SL; but I am not sure I will call someone else better there than him.

 

[ma1978]

Gavaskar in the Windies… he even had a calypso written about him

Tendulkar in Australia after Hutton for the sheer body of work

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Gavaskar in the Windies… he even had a calypso written about him

Tendulkar in Australia after Hutton for the sheer body of work

Even Richards had as many tours if I’m not wrong, averaged only a little lesser, but had a superior SR, and his 79 tour trumps anything SRT did there.

 

[Blenkinsop]

G Smith faced weaker attacks on flatter pitches I think. Never had a series like S Smith in 2019 or Dravid in 2011

Yeah but the question wasn't "Which batsman had the best series in each country?" It was about their overall record. Graeme Smith's overall record in England is way better -- even before you consider that he was batting in a harder position, he was captain, and he actually won series.

 

[Nintendo]

Cook over Smith in India. India haven't lost at home since Cook's 3 century tour in 2012.

Definitely fair. That 2022 tour is a big dent on smith's resume, had no idea. Even in the recent WTC/Ashes England tour he managed to shift 3 of the 6 games in Australia's favour and outright win two of them despite being far from his best.