The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[BazBall21]

Australia
WI
South Africa
Pakistan
India
England
New Zealand
Sri Lanka
Zimbabwe
Bangladesh.

 

[Socerer 01]

Yeah root has been pretty underwhelming overseas. No ATG innings or ATG series. His home record is decent though.

lol what

he is the only overseas batsman to have a double hundred in India since Kohli became the Indian test captain and made India formidable again

also has the last 200 by an overseas batsman in NZ. and had over 3 times the number of runs by anyone in his side when they last toured Sri Lanka

 

[CricketFan90s]

Harper was my alternative.



Correct. And their team composition is inferior to at least 5 other teams. I’d say the same if it was Australia with those players.

Gooch, Cook, Gower, Pietersen, Thorpe, Stewart, Botham, Flintoff, Swann and Broad does it look like a weak batting lineup ? Not at all. 4 Bowlers - Anderson, Broad, Botham and Flintoff. A Spinner - Swann. They will cause tremors in Australian Camp.

 

[BazBall21]

Very good hundred in a low-scoring test that England won in SAF too. I think that's in his top five tons.

 

[BazBall21]

Gooch, Cook, Gower, Pietersen, Thorpe, Stewart, Botham, Flintoff, Swann and Broad does it look like a weak batting lineup ? Not at all. 4 Bowlers - Anderson, Broad, Botham and Flintoff. A Spinner - Swann. They will cause tremors in Australian Camp.

It's obviously a very strong side and there's enough there for them to beat anyone on their day. But it doesn't stand up well to any of the top five overall. The top four all have stronger bowling and #5 has easily superior batting.

 

[Coronis]

Gooch, Cook, Gower, Pietersen, Thorpe, Stewart, Botham, Flintoff, Swann and Broad does it look like a weak batting lineup ? Not at all. 4 Bowlers - Anderson, Broad, Botham and Flintoff. A Spinner - Swann. They will cause tremors in Australian Camp.

Weak in comparison to the other 5, yes. And no bowling attack with Anderson causes tremors to any Australian. Except maybe tremors of laughter.

 

[BazBall21]

Gough has a better away record than Broad. Obviously volume means Broad had the better career but for a one-off tournament across conditions (which this discussion seems to be roughly leaning towards) I'd be tempted to take Gough.

 

[Socerer 01]

Very good hundred in a low-scoring test that England won in SAF too. I think that's in his top five tons.

@PlayerComparisons has a thing for being anti-Root so nothing unusual there

 

[BazBall21]

Weak in comparison to the other 5, yes. And no bowling attack with Anderson causes tremors to any Australian. Except maybe tremors of laughter.

Wish it was since 1970 instead of 1974 and then John Snow would qualify haha.

 

[Socerer 01]

Gough has a better away record than Broad. Obviously volume means Broad had the better career but for a one-off tournament across conditions (which this discussion seems to be roughly leaning towards) I'd be tempted to take Gough.

the one who doesn’t belong there is Flintoff hiding at 8 more so than Broad

 

[BazBall21]

the one who doesn’t belong there is Flintoff hiding at 8 more so than Broad

Was tempted to bat Flintoff at 7 for his extra gear but he suits batting with the tail more than Knott who was like a rich man's Foakes with the bat.

You'd have a very weak tail if second half of his career Broad replaced Freddie!

 

[CricketFan90s]

Wish it was since 1970 instead of 1974 and then John Snow would qualify haha.

For overseas matches John Snow is a great choice

 

[Socerer 01]

Was tempted to bat Flintoff at 7 for his extra gear but he suits batting with the tail more than Knott who was like a rich man's Foakes with the bat.

You'd have a very weak tail if second half of his career Broad replaced Freddie!

wouldnt Swann at 8 offer enough? i remember him being very handy

 

[trundler]

1920-1970

Ponsford
Simpson
Bradman
Harvey
McCabe
Miller
Oldfield
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reilly
Grimmett

Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Compton
Barrington
May
Ames+
Laker
Snow
Trueman
Statham

Mitchell
Goddard
Taylor
Nourse
Pollock
Bland
Waite
Procter
Pollock
Adcock
Tayfield

Hunte
Stollmeyer
Worrell
Weekes
Walcott
Sobers
Murray
Hall
Griffith
Gibbs
Martindale

Reckon these are way more interesting

 

[BazBall21]

wouldnt Swann at 8 offer enough? i remember him being very handy

Think Swann for Underwood would be a bit unjust

 

[Socerer 01]

Think Swann for Underwood would be a bit unjust

completely forgot he existed, yeah looks a bit iffy

 

[Coronis]

1920-1970

Ponsford
Simpson
Bradman
Harvey
McCabe
Miller
Oldfield
Lindwall
Davidson
O'Reilly
Grimmett

Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Compton
Barrington
May
Ames+
Laker
Snow
Trueman
Statham

Mitchell
Goddard
Taylor
Nourse
Pollock
Bland
Waite
Procter
Pollock
Adcock
Tayfield

Hunte
Stollmeyer
Worrell
Weekes
Walcott
Sobers
Murray
Hall
Griffith
Gibbs
Martindale

Reckon these are way more interesting

England has a quality shot at this.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Think Swann for Underwood would be a bit unjust

Swann is also good with the bat and a very attacking spinner, his numbers were good enough for the time he played in cricket. Underwood had that rain advantage that helped in having low average.

 

[BazBall21]

Stacked batting for England. B team would have the likes of Boycott, Cowdrey, Dexter and Hendren.

 

[trundler]

Stacked batting for England. B team would have the likes of Boycott, Cowdrey, Dexter and Hendren.

Third seamer was the big call there. Went with Snow for variety.