The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[capt_Luffy]

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That comes natural due to coding in C+.....

 

[Bolo.]

That comes natural due to coding in C+.....

naturally*

 

[Red]

Hobbs
Hutton
Grace
Hammond
Barrington
Ames
Botham
Rhodes
Larwood
Laker
Trueman

Reading back over the Eng discussion a few pages back, I tend to think this’d be the most competitive option.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington
Botham
Knott
Laker
Trueman
Barnes
Anderson

 

[CricketFan90s]

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington
Botham
Knott
Laker
Trueman
Barnes
Anderson

this is the best England XI but unfortunately England could not replace old players with new players.

 

[kyear2]

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington
Botham
Knott
Laker
Trueman
Barnes
Anderson

With the combined sr of the top 5, they're winning games?

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Hobbs
Hutton
Grace
Hammond
Barrington
Ames
Botham
Rhodes
Larwood
Laker
Trueman

Reading back over the Eng discussion a few pages back, I tend to think this’d be the most competitive option.

Barnes definitely the Apex predator. First Guy picked every time imho.

 

[Prince EWS]

Barnes definitely the Apex predator. First Guy picked every time imho.

Yeah picking Grace but not Barnes is a new one for me.

 

[kyear2]

Yeah picking Grace but not Barnes is a new one for me.

I just pick neither

 

[Prince EWS]

I just pick neither

At least there's internal logic to that.

 

[kyear2]

At least there's internal logic to that.

Agree

Just goes back to far imho..

 

[kyear2]

But yeah, both or neither I guess.

 

[Prince EWS]

But yeah, both or neither I guess.

I think picking Barnes but not Grace is also fine given:
1 - Definitely a lot more competition for 3 batting spots in the English XI than bowling spots.
2 - Barnes excelled in Tests specifically a lot more than Grace did, and a lot of people consider these Test-only XIs.

I'm not sure I've ever seen Grace picked but not Barnes though.

 

[kyear2]

I think picking Barnes but not Grace is also fine given:
1 - Definitely a lot more competition for 3 batting spots in the English XI than bowling spots.
2 - Barnes excelled in Tests specifically a lot more than Grace did, and a lot of people consider these Test-only XIs.

I'm not sure I've ever seen Grace picked but not Barnes though.

Don't think either faced sufficient quality competition, think the rules and the game was totally different from what it is today. We don't know what techniques were like nor will we ever be sure that Barnes even bowled.

 

[Prince EWS]

Don't think either faced sufficient quality competition, think the rules and the game was totally different from what it is today. We don't know what techniques were like nor will we ever be sure that Barnes even bowled.

Yeah I get your logic.

I also get the logic for picking both.

I also get the logic for picking Barnes but not Grace.

I just don't get the other combination.

 

[kyear2]

The English team is the trickiest to choose.

Outside of the top 3, Knott and Trueman it's a crap shoot.

 

[Prince EWS]

The English team is the trickiest to choose.

Outside of the top 3, Knott and Trueman it's a crap shoot.

Even at #3 sometimes people pick another opener and move Hammond to four, but yeah those are the only five players who always get picked.

 

[kyear2]

Even at #3 sometimes people pick another opener and move Hammond to four, but yeah those are the only five players who always get picked.

I know Coronis does it, and you don't care about s/r either, but my God.

A top 5 comprising of Sutcliffe, Hutton, Hammond and Barrington isn't winning test matches.

 

[Red]

Actually just forgot Barnes tbh

Comes in for Larwood or Trueman

 

[kyear2]

Actually just forgot Barnes tbh

Comes in for Larwood or Trueman

Would imagine Larwood.

It is funny though how Trueman's perception has improved from his playing days.