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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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ankitj
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Came across this. ATG XI based on checklists. Thought you all will like it.
Victor Ian
International Coach
If you are relying on Gayle in case it spins, then Warne is the reason your team lost. I would bowl Holding every day of the year over Gayle, regardless of the conditions.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Now the decision has changed. We are going with Gibbs as Australia has Warne to counter him we have Gibbs and Sobers. The only small error in West Indies Team is not having a Wicket Keeper batsmen like Gilly.
Patience and Accuracy+Gut
State Vice-Captain
South Africa aren’t beating Australia. They are good deal inferior in every aspect. Indies are most probably winning from time to time but Australia the better team by a reasonable enough margin.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
You could use Clyde Walcott, he's probably as closest Gilly negator as they come.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Australia XI : 1)
he had back injury and was not comfortable with Wicket Keeping. We will keep Jeff Dujon as he is an acrobatic wicket keeper will be useful to take crucial catches. On Paper Australia might look better but this West Indies Team is unbeatable.
Victor Ian
International Coach
But would they beat themselves?
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
May be
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Later on in his career. He kept for more than 1/3 of the matches he played, after which he was an automatic choice as a batsman and started picking up back problems so just gave up the gloves. While he was a keeper, he was very solid and particularly strong vs spin. And ofcourse, as a batsman you can't even compare Walcott with Dujon. Any misses while keeping he will more than make up for with superior batting.
Coronis
International Coach
kyear2
International Coach
Barry Richards, Graeme Pollock and Jacques Kallis are elite, Donald, Procter and Steyn can bowl out any team, even that Australian squad.
kyear2
International Coach
If I'm playing Gibbs, Walcott is the keeper
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
He means in black and white. Maybe in color, Aus have a chance.
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
He means in a computer simulation as opposed to on paper.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
hardly played 15 tests as wicket keeper
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
South Asia XI : 1) Saeed Anwar 2) Sunil Gavaskar 3) Rahul Dravid 4) Sachin Tendulkar 5) Kumar Sangakkara+ 6) Javed miandad 7) Shakib Al Hasan 8) Imran Khan (c) 9) Wasim Akram 10) Muttiah Muralitharan 11) Waqar Younis
Can Australia XI defeat this Team ?
Can Australia XI defeat this Team ?
kyear2
International Coach
Top 20 Batsman
Bradman
Tendulkar
Sobers
Hobbs
Richards
Smith
Lara
Hutton
Gavaskar
Ponting
Hammond
Kallis
Chappell
Headley
Sangakkara
Sutcliffe
Border
Pollock
Waugh
Barrington
Top 16 bowlers
Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Warne
Muralitharan
Ambrose
Imran
Donald
Lillee
O'Reilly
Wasim
Trueman
Garner
Holding
Davidson
Top 12 Slip fielders
Hammond
Simpson
Sobers
Chappell
Taylor
Waugh
Ponting
Richardson
Hooper
Kallis
Jayawardene
Dravid
Top 10 all rounders
Sobers
Imran
Kallis
Gilchrist
Miller
Botham
Hadlee
Pollock
Jadeja
Kapil
Top 8 Captains
Benaud
Ranatunga
Taylor
Flemming
Worrell
Jardine
Lloyd
Imran
All Time XI & Squad
Sir John Hobbs
Barry Richards^
Sir Donald Bradman*
Sir. I. V. A. Richards^
Sachin Tendulkar
Sir Garfield Sobers^(5)
Adam Gilchrist +
Malcolm Marshall (1)
Shane Warne (4)
Dale Steyn (3)
Glenn McGrath (2)
Sir Leonard Hutton
Brian Lara
Sir Richard Hadlee
Muttiah Muralitharan
Injured reserves
Imran Khan
Jacques Kallis
Allan Knott
Top 25 cricketers of All Time
Tier 1
Bradman / Sobers / Marshall / Hobbs / Hadlee / McGrath / Tendulkar
Tier 2
Richards / Warne / Imran / Steyn / Muralitharan / Smith / Lara / Hammond / Hutton / Kallis / Gilchrist / Ambrose / Gavaskar / O'Reilly / Ponting / Wasim / Sutcliffe / Miller
Bradman
Tendulkar
Sobers
Hobbs
Richards
Smith
Lara
Hutton
Gavaskar
Ponting
Hammond
Kallis
Chappell
Headley
Sangakkara
Sutcliffe
Border
Pollock
Waugh
Barrington
Top 16 bowlers
Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Warne
Muralitharan
Ambrose
Imran
Donald
Lillee
O'Reilly
Wasim
Trueman
Garner
Holding
Davidson
Top 12 Slip fielders
Hammond
Simpson
Sobers
Chappell
Taylor
Waugh
Ponting
Richardson
Hooper
Kallis
Jayawardene
Dravid
Top 10 all rounders
Sobers
Imran
Kallis
Gilchrist
Miller
Botham
Hadlee
Pollock
Jadeja
Kapil
Top 8 Captains
Benaud
Ranatunga
Taylor
Flemming
Worrell
Jardine
Lloyd
Imran
All Time XI & Squad
Sir John Hobbs
Barry Richards^
Sir Donald Bradman*
Sir. I. V. A. Richards^
Sachin Tendulkar
Sir Garfield Sobers^(5)
Adam Gilchrist +
Malcolm Marshall (1)
Shane Warne (4)
Dale Steyn (3)
Glenn McGrath (2)
Sir Leonard Hutton
Brian Lara
Sir Richard Hadlee
Muttiah Muralitharan
Injured reserves
Imran Khan
Jacques Kallis
Allan Knott
Top 25 cricketers of All Time
Tier 1
Bradman / Sobers / Marshall / Hobbs / Hadlee / McGrath / Tendulkar
Tier 2
Richards / Warne / Imran / Steyn / Muralitharan / Smith / Lara / Hammond / Hutton / Kallis / Gilchrist / Ambrose / Gavaskar / O'Reilly / Ponting / Wasim / Sutcliffe / Miller
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Steyn, Mcgrath, and the worst of the specialist bats
Vs
Imran, Hadlee, and Miller (or the most suitable other AR).
Are you choosing the former because you think they have better batting, bowling, or both?
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Is that Graeme Smith at the bottom of your top 20 batsmen?