David Gower vs Virender Sehwag

[Sunil1z]

Is this a rhetorical question? As a huge Bumrah fan; I can't say he is better than Donald, and I have also said Gavaskar and Dravid are better

I think same logic applies in both cases .

 

[capt_Luffy]

I think same logic applies in both cases .

I don't fully agree on that, as both Sutcliffe and Barrington had full careers and Bumrah is only halfway through his. By the time he retires, he has the capability to be over Donald.

 

[Sunil1z]

I don't fully agree on that, as both Sutcliffe and Barrington had full careers and Bumrah is only halfway through his. By the time he retires, he has the capability to be over Donald.

What if Bumrah takes only 50 more wickets in next 5 years and retires ? ( Because of his bowling action) . So if he ends with 200 wkts @20 , would you consider him better than Donald. ?

 

[ankitj]

Didnt know Dravid was leading run scorer though. That’s pretty impressive

Not only that, his SR compares favorably with others among the top scorers in the 99 world cup. Dravid was a perfectly fine ODI batsman. Pretty much unstoppable for a long time.

 

[capt_Luffy]

What if Bumrah takes only 50 more wickets in next 5 years and retires ? ( Because of his bowling action) . So if he ends with 200 wkts @20 , would you consider him better than Donald. ?

That's why I said capability; not that he will.

 

[Coronis]

No, what you wanted to point out was the difference in batting average. And that batting average can easily be attributed to late stage career decline for both Dravid and Gavaskar.

Which again, is not the argument

 

[Shri]

better to compare gower to journeymen like ian bell than an atg like sehwag

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

England being the home game. …..

If Dravid and Ganguly had played in early 20th century both would have same reputation as Hobbs and Hutton.

Come on, Ganguly averages like 42. No Aussie would really claim about how someone like Steve Waugh and Mark Waugh would be a top 10 batsman or like Hobbs, Hutton if they played during that timeframe.

 

[Sunil1z]

Come on, Ganguly averages like 42. No Aussie would really claim about how someone like Steve Waugh and Mark Waugh would be a top 10 batsman or like Hobbs, Hutton if they played during that timeframe.

Ganguly averages 42 and so does Gower . We are being told that he was better than Sehwag ( averaging 49) because he played his Home game game in England.

 

[BazBall21]

Ganguly averages 42 and so does Gower . We are being told that he was better than Sehwag ( averaging 49) because he played his Home game game in England.

Gower averaged 44 and 46 overseas in a vastly tougher era than Ganguly. The comparison to downhill skier Ian Bell was equally disrespectful.

 

[Sunil1z]

Gower averaged 44 and 46 overseas in a vastly tougher era than Ganguly. The comparison to downhill skier Ian Bell was equally disrespectful.

I was joking earlier man
I think irrespective of home conditions a 42 average player cannot be better than 49 one .

And I use the same logic for comparing Kapil and Anderson

 

[capt_Luffy]

I was joking earlier man
I think irrespective of home conditions a 42 average player cannot be better than 49 one .

And I use the same logic for comparing Kapil and Anderson

I mean, Martin Crowe averages 46, Mohammad Yousuf 52; and I don't think they're particularly close but in the opposite direction.

 

[Sunil1z]

I mean, Martin Crowe averages 46, Mohammad Yousuf 52; and I don't think they're particularly close but in the opposite direction.

This logic doesn’t applies here . Sehwag was an opener . I would take an opener averaging 49 anyday over middle order batsman averaging 42 irrespective of home conditions.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Ganguly averages 42 and so does Gower . We are being told that he was better than Sehwag ( averaging 49) because he played his Home game game in England.

Gower has like 2 votes which is basically the sympathy votes. Ofc Sehwag is ahead, no comparison.

 

[BazBall21]

In terms of the principle, Crowe averages 5 runs less than Hayden and I'd rate Crowe ahead.

 

[capt_Luffy]

In terms of the principle, Crowe averages 5 runs less than Hayden and I'd rate Crowe ahead.

Or Richards 10 runs than Sutcliffe

 

[Sunil1z]

In terms of the principle, Crowe averages 5 runs less than Hayden and I'd rate Crowe ahead.

No.
Crowe is getting overrated slightly.
A middle order batsman averaging 45 can never be better than opener averaging 50 .

 

[Sunil1z]

In terms of the principle, Crowe averages 5 runs less than Hayden and I'd rate Crowe ahead.

If you had said Cook is better than Hayden/Sehwag , I might have been more sympathetic to you . But if you say a middle order batsman who averages 5 less then it is absolutely no from me .

 

[PlayerComparisons]

No.
Crowe is getting overrated slightly.
A middle order batsman averaging 45 can never be better than opener averaging 50 .

Crowe or Williamson for you?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Gower averaged 44 and 46 overseas in a vastly tougher era than Ganguly. The comparison to downhill skier Ian Bell was equally disrespectful.

I don’t think he was being serious lol. Gower >> Bell