***Official*** IPL 2024

[honestbharani]

I wont mind them trying Will Jacks for Green. Its really just lipstick on a pig at this point with their bowling but they have to seriously consider the balance of their side.

Siraj has to bowl with the new ball with Topley. Yash Dayal is ok but you really gotta see if you need him bowling first change.

Faf
Jacks
Virat
Lomror
Maxwell
Rawat (wk)
DK / Topley
Dagar
Siraj
Himanshu
Dayal

should be a decent enough side IMO. Get some overs out of Jacks and Maxwell, maybe even with the new ball for Maxi...

 

[srbhkshk]

What is the point of going for a par score if they are aware the bowling is terrible? They should be going for broke. Winning 1 game by 15 runs and losing another 3 by 70 is still better than losing 4 games by 25 runs.

Kohli was on 45 of 37 at the end of the 10th over, that's terrible by all metrics -whatever he did after this does not compensate for wasting half of the innings. The comparison of his SR with other batsman is pointless, he played 72 balls - the rest of them played 48 balls combined, obviously you are gonna need to score at a higher SR if you are playing the majority of the deliveries , getting set is a thing. Faf played a terrible innings too but it's worth remembering that at the same amount of deliveries faced as Faf Kohli's innings was just as bad if not worse. The rest of the batsman barely played 6-7 balls and were batting knowing fully well that it was hit out or get out time - it's a lottery how much anyone is gonna mange in such circumstances.

Maybe the conditions were not easy this match, but does anyone really recall the last time Kohli played a free flowing T20 innings? I genuinely don't remember the last time he put the opposing spinners to the sword, has completely lost the capability to accelerate or even retain the SR against them. This is fine in tests and ODIs as there is time to make up as long as you don't get out - but won't work in T20s imo.

(Have been a massive supporter of Kohli in general , so this is not coming from a postion of bias. or so I think at least)

 

[Xix2565]

Yeah, sorry but thinking Kohli was the only one who played well for RCB is bollocks tbh. Modern T20 games don't allow for middle overs slowdown, because there's no guarantee that you can make it up at the end, or that the opposition won't go harder than you during their innings. The bowlers have little influence over batters taking risks to score, so you have to press your advantage as hard as possible while batting, which means taking risks to score boundaries. If your bowlers aren't superior or equal to the opposition bowlers, then your batting has to compensate for that. They only used up 3 wickets to make 180, when they should've aimed for 200+ with their start. That's just not good T20 cricket.

Sadly RCB don't seem to have understood T20 cricket at all now.

 

[Xix2565]

The thing is if Kohli scores 50 of 25, RCB will collectively manage 160-170. Plus easier said than done vs the best attack of the season. Even Buttler and Samson took atleast 30 balls to reach their fifties, and they did it against the worst attack of the season

Who says they can only get 170 max? Wouldn't the extra balls available to score from allow them more freedom to hit? They only lost 3 wickets vs this best attack. Could've tried harder for more runs to play with.

 

[Nintendo]

Yeah, sorry but thinking Kohli was the only one who played well for RCB is bollocks tbh. Modern T20 games don't allow for middle overs slowdown, because there's no guarantee that you can make it up at the end, or that the opposition won't go harder than you during their innings. The bowlers have little influence over batters taking risks to score, so you have to press your advantage as hard as possible while batting, which means taking risks to score boundaries. If your bowlers aren't superior or equal to the opposition bowlers, then your batting has to compensate for that. They only used up 3 wickets to make 180, when they should've aimed for 200+ with their start. That's just not good T20 cricket.

Sadly RCB don't seem to have understood T20 cricket at all now.

Bowler's do have influence over batsmen trying to take risks to score? Chahal knew faf was trying to hit him out of the ground, so he went full and wide as faf charged him, and faf got dropped, the next ball, he went wide and out of the arc as faf tried to slog straight and got him to mishit. RR's bowlers are worse than RCB'S and did a fantastic job of bowling dry, plus kohli definitely stopped going as hard for a bit when he got close to the century.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Who says they can only get 170 max? Wouldn't the extra balls available to score from allow them more freedom to hit? They only lost 3 wickets vs this best attack. Could've tried harder for more runs to play with.

The others weren’t able to put ball to bat. And scoring at that SR overall vs RR at Jaipur is pretty good, especially when your teammates are useless

 

[Nintendo]

Who says they can only get 170 max? Wouldn't the extra balls available to score from allow them more freedom to hit? They only lost 3 wickets vs this best attack. Could've tried harder for more runs to play with.

Did you not watch the game or are you blind? RCB where trying to slog and hit boundaries. Green did, faf did after the start, Kohli did outside the period he slowed down for the ton, the new guy did it for 6 balls, maxwell did it for all 3 balls he faced. RR just have a better bowling attack than RCB. The fact that RCB have had three games where they haven't been able to adapt to side's bowling dry in the middle is a concern.

 

[Xix2565]

Bowler's do have influence over batsmen trying to take risks to score? Chahal knew faf was trying to hit him out of the ground, so he went full and wide as faf charged him, and faf got dropped, the next ball, he went wide and out of the arc as faf tried to slog straight and got him to mi****. RR's bowlers are worse than RCB'S and did a fantastic job of bowling dry, plus kohli definitely stopped going as hard for a bit when he got close to the century.

They can't stop the batters from swinging at every ball though. And the batters have no incentive to go slow at all. Hence the bowlers not having much influence. Faf not executing well doesn't change that.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Yeah, sorry but thinking Kohli was the only one who played well for RCB is bollocks tbh. Modern T20 games don't allow for middle overs slowdown, because there's no guarantee that you can make it up at the end, or that the opposition won't go harder than you during their innings. The bowlers have little influence over batters taking risks to score, so you have to press your advantage as hard as possible while batting, which means taking risks to score boundaries. If your bowlers aren't superior or equal to the opposition bowlers, then your batting has to compensate for that. They only used up 3 wickets to make 180, when they should've aimed for 200+ with their start. That's just not good T20 cricket.

Sadly RCB don't seem to have understood T20 cricket at all now.

Well thats easier said than done, the comps best spin duo are bowling in the first innings at a big ground

 

[Xix2565]

The others weren’t able to put ball to bat. And scoring at that SR overall vs RR at Jaipur is pretty good, especially when your teammates are useless

Yeah, because they had to swing immediately with little resources. The team being useless though is a bit irrelevant, if you play like you can't trust a team then might as well forfeit and go home then. Can't just give up on playing well.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

They can't stop the batters from swinging at every ball though. And the batters have no incentive to go slow at all. Hence the bowlers not having much influence. Faf not executing well doesn't change that.

I dont think Kohli trying to score 50 of 30 instead of 113 of 70, and ending RCB’s innings at 170, which were chased even easier. you can’t blame Kohli for doing even better to compensate for his phenomenally bad bowling attack. Even Buttler and Samson we’re struggling until Dagar was introduced.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Yeah, because they had to swing immediately with little resources. The team being useless though is a bit irrelevant, if you play like you can't trust a team then might as well forfeit and go home then. Can't just give up on playing well.

You have to strike a balance.

 

[Xix2565]

You have to strike a balance.

Yesterday was not balance, it was failing. Balance is Sanju/Buttler taking turns and keeping up a good RR.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Yesterday was not balance, it was failing. Balance is Sanju/Buttler taking turns and keeping up a good RR.

Yes because they had better conditions and were facing Dagar and **** like that. Understand the context

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

And even they only opened after facing trite

 

[Xix2565]

Yes because they had better conditions and were facing Dagar and **** like that. Understand the context

The context doesn't help RCB at all, if they had managed 200+ even Dagar and co would be decent enough to make it a contest. Would force RR to take even more risks and try not to slow down, giving RCB more wicket chances.

 

[Nintendo]

They can't stop the batters from swinging at every ball though. And the batters have no incentive to go slow at all. Hence the bowlers not having much influence. Faf not executing well doesn't change that.

Chahal adjusted because he has an idea of how faf tries to hit the ball or had the skill to adjust as he saw faf making early movements. This isn't video game cricket where you know exactly what ball the bowler is going to bowl 5 seconds before it's coming at you FFS. Your treating t20 cricket like it's some magical alternate reality where batsmen can just walk in from ball one and maximize results by swinging at every ball.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

The context doesn't help RCB at all, if they had managed 200+ even Dagar and co would be decent enough to make it a contest. Would force RR to take even more risks and try not to slow down, giving RCB more wicket chances.

And managing 200 plus is very very tough given it was first innings(no dew) and facing the best attack of the competition

 

[Xix2565]

Did you not watch the game or are you blind? RCB where trying to slog and hit boundaries. Green did, faf did after the start, Kohli did outside the period he slowed down for the ton, the new guy did it for 6 balls, maxwell did it for all 3 balls he faced. RR just have a better bowling attack than RCB. The fact that RCB have had three games where they haven't been able to adapt to side's bowling dry in the middle is a concern.

I watched it, and they basically sucked at hitting outside of a few moments. I didn't get the sense any of them wanted to be even more aggressive, which is the big issue here given the teams in general. T20s isn't a format where you let the bowlers dictate terms, the batters have so much in their favour to dictate the contest which we didn't see from RCB. That does mean Kohli is part of the problem as well, like others have explained.

 

[Xix2565]

Chahal adjusted because he has an idea of how faf tries to hit the ball or had the skill to adjust as he saw faf making early movements. This isn't video game cricket where you know exactly what ball the bowler is going to bowl 5 seconds before it's coming at you FFS. Your treating t20 cricket like it's some magical alternate reality where batsmen can just walk in from ball one and maximize results by swinging at every ball.

The batters generally have a good idea of what is being bowled by field placements and prior scouting. And even then, they have no real reason to play slowly, because they only have 120 balls to use up. They can't afford too many low scoring overs at all.