2022 v 2024 Bowlers Polls

[Line and Length]

In 2022 we had polls for both spinners and pacers. Because some felt Barnes, Bedser an Philander weren't true fast bowlers, none of these three appeared in those polls.
I have looked at the 2024 overall poll and compared the bowlers' standings with their '22 rankings in the relative categories.
Whilst the top bowlers in each category have remained much the same from one poll to another, certain current players have risen quite dramatically.
The actual numbers in the spinner v quick categories is 13 to 37 which probably reflects the usual 3 quicks + 1 spinner make-up of many attacks.
Your comments are more than welcome.

Here are the comparisons:

2022 Spinners Ranking	2024 Ranking	Change
1. Muttiah Muralitharan	1	0
2. Shane Warne	2	0
3. Bill O'Reilly	3	0
4. Jim Laker	5	down 1
5. Clarrie Grimmett	7	down 2
6. Hedley Verity	4	up 2
7. Hugh Tayfield	8	down 1
8. Anil Kumble	12	down 4
9. Derek Underwood	10	down 1
10. Lance Gibbs	9	up 1
11. Ravichandran Ashwin	6	up 5
12. Richie Benaud
13. Rangana Herath
14. Bhagwath Chandrasekhar
15. Bishen Bedi
16. Nathan Lyon	13	up 3
17. Saqlain Mushtaq
18. Graeme Swann
19. Ravindra Jadeja	11	up 8
20. Subhash Gupte
21. Hugh Trumble
22. Wilfred Rhodes
23. Colin Blythe
24. Johnny Wardle
25. Sonny Ramadhin
26. Erapally Prasanna
27. Stuart MacGill
28. Harbhajan Singh
29. Keshav Maharaj
30. Bert Ironmonger

2022 Pacemen Ranking	2024 Rankings	Change
1. Malcolm Marshall	1	0
2. Glenn McGrath	2	0
3. Richard Hadlee	3	0
4. Curtly Ambrose	5	down 1
5. Dale Steyn	4	up 1
6. Imran Khan	6	0
7. Dennis Lillee	8	down 1
8. Fred Trueman	10	down 2
9. Wasim Akram	7	up 2
10. Allan Donald	9	up 1
11. Joel Garner	11	0
12. Ray Lindwall	12	0
13. Michael Holding	14	down 1
14. Waqar Younis	13	up 1
15. Alan Davidson		0
16. Shaun Pollock	16	0
17. Courtney Walsh	17	0
18. Andy Roberts	20	down 2
19. James Anderson	19	0
20. Pat Cummins	18	up 2
21. Keith Miller	25	down 4
22. Brian Statham	24	down 2
23. Bob Willis	26	down 3
24. Shoaib Akhtar	29	down 5
25. Harold Larwood	33	down 8
26. Ian Bishop	28	down 2
27. Neil Adcock	23	up 4
28. Wes Hall	31	down 3
29. Kagiso Rabada	21	up 8
30. Frank Tyson
31. Kapil Dev	29	up 2
32. John Snow	32	0
33. Jasprit Bumrah	22	up 11
34. Ian Botham	27	up 7
35. Stuart Broad	33	up 2
36. Peter Pollock
37. Neil Wagner
38. Jason Gillespie
39. Jeff Thomson
40. Tim Southee
Not included
S.Barnes
A.Bedser
V.Philander

 

[capt_Luffy]

Jadeja higher than Kumble is such a.....

Anyways, my main gripe is Jadeja too high and Kumble too low, rest is relatively close to how I rank them.

 

[CricAddict]

Jadeja higher than Kumble is such a.....

Anyways, my main gripe is Jadeja too high and Kumble too low, rest is relatively close to how I rank them.

There is nothing wrong with that. Jadeja has won India more ratio of matches with the ball than Kumble so far.

 

[capt_Luffy]

There is nothing wrong with that. Jadeja has won India more ratio of matches with the ball than Kumble so far.

Jadeja bowled with a much much better bowling lineup in exponentially more helpful pitches...... Of course he would win more matches, like Lillee won Australia more matches than Hadlee Or Ponting than Lara. They're not close for me personally as bowlers only.

 

[ankitj]

I thought this was a poll for which poll was better

 

[Line and Length]

I thought this was a poll for which poll was better

... and which one is?

 

[Socerer 01]

Kumble is a better bowler than Jadeja but the gap between them isnt that big for it to be a travesty if Jadeja is voted ahead of him

 

[trundler]

Kumble is a better bowler than Jadeja but the gap between them isnt that big for it to be a travesty if Jadeja is voted ahead of him

It is though

 

[Socerer 01]

nah it aint so

 

[trundler]

You can say that about Ashwin and Kumble but Jadeja is definitely worse

 

[capt_Luffy]

nah it aint so

If you think Jadeja over Ashwin is acceptable; then sure.

 

[Socerer 01]

You can say that about Ashwin and Kumble but Jadeja is definitely worse

im not debating that, im saying it isnt as big of a difference between all 3 of them like this forum makes it to be

If you think Jadeja over Ashwin is acceptable; then sure.

i dont think thats controversial of an opinion to hold either

 

[trundler]

im not debating that, im saying it isnt as big of a difference between all 3 of them like this forum makes it to be




i dont think thats controversial of an opinion to hold either

There is a big difference there though

 

[Socerer 01]

nah

 

[trundler]

There are about 8 spinners after the top 3 who are about as good as each other. Jadeja isn't one of them.

 

[CricAddict]

There are about 8 spinners after the top 3 who are about as good as each other. Jadeja isn't one of them.

According to you.

 

[capt_Luffy]

According to you.

I think that's the majority opinion.

 

[Socerer 01]

I think that's the majority opinion.

idk if the majority opinion on this forum invalidates Jadeja belonging in a similar class though

 

[capt_Luffy]

idk if the majority opinion on this forum invalidates Jadeja belonging in a similar class though

Depends. I personally don't think he is among India's top 5 spinners, you are always free to differ.

 

[shortpitched713]

In 2022 we had polls for both spinners and pacers. Because some felt Barnes, Bedser an Philander weren't true fast bowlers, none of these three appeared in those polls.

Wait, did someone actually say this about Philander? Let me at 'em!