Ashwin v Laker v Verity v Grimmett

[capt_Luffy]

Jadeja tho. Dominates Ashwin in Ranji.

So is Ashwin overrated or Jadeja underrated

Meanwhile Jadeja with 3 Ranji triple tons

 

[honestbharani]

Jadeja tho. Dominates Ashwin in Ranji.

So is Ashwin overrated or Jadeja underrated

Mumbai are the greatest. Rest is immaterial.

 

[Socerer 01]

Jadeja tho. Dominates Ashwin in Ranji.

So is Ashwin overrated or Jadeja underrated

everyone knows the answer

 

[PlayerComparisons]

You may be right about some of your observations here. To balance it out, there is a poster who always votes a non indian player over an indian player in a comparison. I don't want to name him but his voting pattern is obvious. So an Indian always starts with one vote disadvantage in any comparison here.

I am not talking about @subshakerz here, whom I rate as a poster.

I think I know who you’re talking about

 

[subshakerz]

I thought @subshakerz was annoying but had integrity. Can't trust anyone in this world. smh.

To clarify, I was split on Verity and Laker and voted Verity, but on second thought I believe Laker might be ahead. We are allowed to make mistakes.

 

[CricAddict]

To clarify, I was split on Verity and Laker and voted Verity, but on second thought I believe Laker might be ahead. We are allowed to make mistakes.

OK, there is a change vote option here in this thread poll. Go and change your vote from Verity to Laker.

 

[subshakerz]

OK, there is a change vote option here in this thread poll. Go and change your vote from Verity to Laker.

I did.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Ashwin

The rest are all old farts who don’t matter

 

[Coronis]

Ashwin

The rest are all old farts who don’t matter

Old farts > young farts

Ask anyone with a nose

 

[h_hurricane]

Old farts can't even fart now for obvious reasons.

 

[shortpitched713]

Not going to get into Ashwin vs old-timers, which is the main reason behind this poll, I know.

But why is Verity so convincingly over Grimmett? They have virtually identical overall averages and Tests played, and isn't it generally accepted that Grimmett was the more versatile of the two for different conditions?

 

[subshakerz]

Not going to get into Ashwin vs old-timers, which is the main reason behind this poll, I know.

But why is Verity so convincingly over Grimmett? They have virtually identical overall averages and Tests played, and isn't it generally accepted that Grimmett was the more versatile of the two for different conditions?

I totally forgot about Grimmett.

 

[shortpitched713]

For pre Warne/Murali old timey spinney type bowlers, I have O'Reilly comfortably at the top.

I'm not sure if Grimmett would be right after that, but ahead of all the other sticky merchant, conditions dependent finger spinners, including Laker, Verity, Tayfield, etc, I have Underwood.

Underwood's home/away splits were not bad at all, and so although England persisted with uncovered pitches longer than most other countries, I think the relative resilience of his record, and usefulness in different conditions should put him as the king of said finger spin style.

 

[shortpitched713]

Oh yeah, Underwood also faced a much better overall standard of batting than the posh tarts the older crowd got to feast on as well, so that's another point in his favor.

 

[subshakerz]

For pre Warne/Murali old timey spinney type bowlers, I have O'Reilly comfortably at the top.

I'm not sure if Grimmett would be right after that, but ahead of all the other sticky merchant, conditions dependent finger spinners, including Laker, Verity, Tayfield, etc, I have Underwood.

Underwood's home/away splits were not bad at all, and so although England persisted with uncovered pitches longer than most other countries, I think the relative resilience of his record, and usefulness in different conditions should put him as the king of said finger spin style.

Underwood criminally underrated.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Underwood criminally underrated.

Know another player who's quite underrated? Chandrashekhar. Bloke had match winning or drawing performances in almost every place he played in including Australia, England and WI.

 

[subshakerz]

Know another player who's quite underrated? Chandrashekhar. Bloke had match winning or drawing performances in almost every place he played in including Australia, England and WI.

The whole quartet is underrated.

 

[Coronis]

The whole quartet is underrated.

Its because of the Windies.

Also careful, if you say something positive about an Indian spinner your rep will be ruined.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Its because of the Windies.

Also careful, if you say something positive about an Indian spinner your rep will be ruined.

Why? Both Chandrashekhar and Bedi especially did quite well in WI. Rather, Bedi failed in England and the problem of Chandra was his immense inconsistency.

 

[Coronis]

Why? Both Chandrashekhar and Bedi especially did quite well in WI. Rather, Bedi failed in England and the problem of Chandra was his immense inconsistency.

The Windies quartet overshadowing them.