Probably because we are less prone to praise polished turds. I'm not a fan of using 'belated recognition' as an alternative expression for 'this **** has worn me down with figures instead of just ****ing off'. Lyon is great. Definitely not all time. He is in the Anderson mould.
They weren't disposable, they were disposed of by India.
hes bloody good, maybe not as good as Ashwin but a fantastic cricketer who is one of Aus’s 10 greatest bowlers of all time
whatever it was they were effin useless
nobody here is arguing for Lyon or Ashwin’s greatness based off their respective records in Australia lol so whats even the argument about
Yes. Nobody is arguing that Lyon is an ATG. But he is capable of SENA performances that are the envy of Ashwin fans.
Why do you j@zz all over SENA.
Maybe you missed the posts where they did. Bg Trophy, all that...
Because it is harder for spinners there as opposed to design pitches in India where even debutants can win games.
that was in response to you claiming he did nothing of note in SENA, convenient of you to shift goalposts after tying everyone around in circular logic for pages
If the pitches in India were so easy for spinners how come guys like Warne and Murali and Lyon don’t do well there
Difference is that Murali and Warne were still backed as wicket taking threats by their teams but ended up struggling against the best spin players ever, rather than sidelined because they knew playing them would be useless in principle like Ashwin.
No envy here, not when Aus hasn’t won a series against us in a decade
Isnt it obvious? India don't have a bonafide ATG spinner otherwise so they are desperate to have him bracketed as such.
There was also no alternative and they didn’t just struggle they were destroyed
I just like arguing with morons. It makes me feel smarter
Yeah but like why do you care so much bro