Is Ravichandran Ashwin an ATG test bowler?

[ma1978]

You mean the same series Lyon spun Australia to victory with 14 wickets in the first test? Yet you are getting in a tizzy over an Ashwin threefer here or there.

Small sample size

 

[ma1978]

Let me check with David Attenborough on Tendulkar vs Lara then.

would enjoy that conversation

the beauty of good cricket writing is that the best writers often have nothingto do with cricket (CLR James, Ram Guha, etc)

 

[Xix2565]

Ashwin's figures don't look as disastrous in Australia as they should because he gets to skip the hard games that don't suit spin - unlike Lyon who plays them all, to his detriment. The fact that Ashwin comes over and doesn't play some games is a tantamount to what a conditions dependant and utterly **** **** he is.
He's a nice bloke and all, but a **** **** who doesn't play when he can't bully.

Dude none of the grounds in Australia now suit spin. Your posts have more spin than anything Australia has seen for a good while now.

 

[subshakerz]

Small sample size

Says the guy who chalks up the BG Trophy to a guy who plays a single test in it.

 

[subshakerz]

Dude none of the grounds in Australia now suit spin. Your posts have more spin than anything Australia has seen for a good while now.

Doesn't that help Lyon's case vs Ashwin?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Dude none of the grounds in Australia now suit spin

If that's true then Lyon is alongside Murali and Warne as a top 3 GOAT

And it supports the opposite of what you're trying to argue

 

[ma1978]

Says the guy who chalks up the BG Trophy to a guy who plays a single test in it.

2021

 

[ma1978]

Doesn't that help Lyon's case vs Ashwin?

indian batsmen are terrible playing spin

 

[Victor Ian]

what a coward that Ashwin, cant even relinquish Indian citizenship, pick up Australian one and turn out for Australia to outbowl Lyon smh

Don't be silly. No one is asking for that. It is also not Ashwin's fault that he is not selected to play those games. But it is evidence that his own selectors and team think he is too **** to be of any worth in those games. Unlike Lyon who is picked to play in all games here even though we have a **** ton of pacers playing and in form just ready to go.

 

[Socerer 01]

If that's true then Lyon is alongside Murali and Warne as a top 3 GOAT

And it supports the opposite of what you're trying to argue

truthfully im seeing more Aussie opposition to the belated recognition of Lyon as a great spinner than Indian opposition tbh

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Will they play Ashwin in England next year or go with Kuldeep?

 

[Xix2565]

Doesn't that help Lyon's case vs Ashwin?

It would if he averaged under 30, but he doesn't.

 

[subshakerz]

2021

2-1 for two consecutive BGS in Australia, someone is doing something right and I’m pretty sure it’s the Galaxy brain at work.

not sure Australia s have the right to comment on India / Australia at this stage

 

[Socerer 01]

Don't be silly. No one is asking for that. It is also not Ashwin's fault that he is not selected to play those games. But it is evidence that his own selectors and team think he is too **** to be of any worth in those games. Unlike Lyon who is picked to play in all games here even though we have a **** ton of pacers playing and in form just ready to go.

if you had actually watched the last 2 BGTs you would have known Ashwin was injured in those matches and not skipped on genius

 

[Socerer 01]

Will they play Ashwin in England next year or go with Kuldeep?

neither, they’ll play Thakur and Jadeja lol

 

[Xix2565]

If that's true then Lyon is alongside Murali and Warne as a top 3 GOAT

And it supports the opposite of what you're trying to argue

It being true doesn't make Lyon the 3rd best spinner ever. You'd have to be Subzi-brained to assume that.

The point being made by Victor Ian was that Ashwin skipped the hard games where it didn't spin, when it never really spun in Australia anyway. What's the point in missing games when the conditions didn't really change with regard to spin?

 

[Silver Silva]

Winning a test series in India is one of the hardest challenges of all time , due mainly to the contribution of Ashwin..Hence he is an all-time great for that reason in my opinion.

 

[subshakerz]

Don't be silly. No one is asking for that. It is also not Ashwin's fault that he is not selected to play those games. But it is evidence that his own selectors and team think he is too **** to be of any worth in those games. Unlike Lyon who is picked to play in all games here even though we have a **** ton of pacers playing and in form just ready to go.

Ashwin himself knows he is disposable in SENA. He has come to peace with it.

 

[TheJediBrah]

truthfully im seeing more Aussie opposition to the belated recognition of Lyon as a great spinner than Indian opposition tbh

That's because we're honest, Lyon just isn't that good. He's mostly lucky to have played so many games because the selectors decided to stick with him

 

[ma1978]

Ashwin himself knows he is disposable in SENA. He has come to peace with it.

Warne and Murali were disposable in India. What’s the difference?