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Ashwin - The ATG Spinner
- Thread starter honestbharani
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Warne
O Reilly
Laker
Grimmett
Verity
Saqlain Mushtaq
Mushtaq Ahmed
Saeed Ajmal
Gibbs
Trumble
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Using series wins as a measure of personal player quality has got to be one of the worst methods of player judging, along with the stupid 'head to head' player contests.
But it does give a window in the mindset of certain posters who allow their team interests to dictate these comparisons.
But it does give a window in the mindset of certain posters who allow their team interests to dictate these comparisons.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Where's Murali.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Why do you think he is an Atg?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
_00_deathscar
International Regular
Getting smacked in 2 separate countries.
Coronis
International Coach
Most wickets, lowest average of any spinner to take 200 wickets, better home record than most of your top 10, better away record than most of your top 10. etc.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
When they’re a huge reason why those wins happened, it’s fair.
Anderson and Broad, one borderline ATG and one very good bowler, basically had conditions at home to suit them too and haven’t done what Ashwin and Jadeja have done at home.
All I’m saying is you can’t consider Anderson an ATG but not Ashwin (I know you don’t, so that’s different. Was raising a general point).
OverratedSanity
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Its really not the same tbf. Murali and Warne were freaks that had the capability to be match winners on basically any surface put in front of them. No need to make a futile attempt at pulling them down just because someone's being a moron about Ashwin.
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
Good ti
Averages 75 in Australia and 45 in IND (best players of spin). Also averaged 28 in Zimbabwe and accidentally posted his **** on twitter during a county game. That's not atg output.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
This is GOATworthy actually.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
So apparently questioning Murali's ATG credentials doesn't make you a moron, only Ashwin's.
Arachnodouche
International Captain
What the hell, when did this happen? I guess to be expected when you have Jayasuriya as a teammate.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
Try reading my post again. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
I’m talking about wins at home, or rather the lack of losses since Ashwin and Jadeja’s debut.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
It’s pretty obvious his list was a windup.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Was referring to your comments.
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
My bad, turns out it was sangakarra, not murali. Botham has also done it if that helps.
Coronis
International Coach
As we have all said multiple times pretty much every ATG has holes in his record. If you’re looking for players with no holes in their records you’ll have an extremely short list of ATGs.
Are you sure? How big was it?
Shri
Mr. Glass
no one is saying akram, imran and younis are frauds for not winning anything in aus
Nintendo
Cricketer Of The Year
I would send you the source material but last time I did that I got banned for a month.