I mean unless groundsmen are idiots with memory problems then sure. Nothing out of the place though, everyone else prepare pitches as well per opposition/playstyle.
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Ashwin - The ATG Spinner
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ataraxia
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Well then evidently the Bay Oval curator isn't in on it
Not the rebuttal you seem to want tbh.
ataraxia
International Coach
Don't know what you're on about here?
If this really were a conspiracy of mammoth proportions like you're suggesting then why are Bay Oval pitches invariably slow puddings no matter who tours?
I think the numbers say enough lol. No clue why I have to discuss specific grounds when the trend is about the overall record.
Flem274*
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it's pure projection. we go there expecting spin due to the soil/climate/whatever and get it, and fair enough. sometimes there's a cheeky little pitch on offer too where the groundsman has played a bit, so winnie the xi here thinks that if india sometimes influence the pitches on purpose then everyone else does it too.
TheJediBrah
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They don't though
TheJediBrah
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If Australia did they wouldn't have given India the slowest and lowest wickets in the country's history on every tour since 2011
They'd be making them as fast and bouncy as possible
They'd be making them as fast and bouncy as possible
ataraxia
International Coach
You: NZ groundsmen aren't idiots, therefore this massive difference in results in completely down to them
Me: well what about this groundsman who prepares 1 in 4 NZ test pitches? Is he an idiot?
You: that's irrelevant, it has no bearing on the overall record. Also the overall record is explained by itself
Me: ???
I just don't see why it matters lol? How does it explain away the clear disparity in numbers I've already posted earlier this thread?
Like this kind of pattern can be found in India as well, and no one seems to be interested in hearing out any arguments about the groundsmen there. So why bother with this here?
Arachnodouche
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He lives for the debate. Who gives a **** about the actual cricket.
RossTaylorsBox
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Unironically one of the top posters here.
Daemon
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This but ironically
Coronis
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I mean this is inherently untrue. Plenty of bowlers (notable batting examples too but thats a different story), are considered ATG’s despite pretty meh records away.
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He's a top?
ataraxia
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You raised the point you imbecile. You said the only way the statistic you posted wasn't an absolutely accurate representation of the degree to which pitch doctoring against SC teams is prevalent in NZ would be groundsmen's inability. I answer the implied question by pointing out a groundsman for whom the template does not apply. Now it's apparently utterly irrelevant and it doesn't explain why the statistic isn't entirely true. Cool.
honestbharani
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Like I said, subzi is in for a lot of painful years. 