Richards, Smith, Lara, Hammond

[subshakerz]

I think Tendulkar superceded Lara by a hair during their era, I don't dispute that. But does that automatically place him outside of even the argument?

No, Lara is within argument.

 

[subshakerz]

Quite the list then.

Tendulkar
Sobers
Hobbs

Richards
Lara
Smith

I have Smith ahead of Lara.

 

[Coronis]

I think Tendulkar superceded Lara by a hair during their era, I don't dispute that. But does that automatically place him outside of even the argument?

He was better than him during their overlap and then scored another 5K runs @ 50 after Lara retired. Was pretty cool.

 

[Line and Length]

Scyld Berry, the chief cricket writer for The Telegraph, would upset a few posters here. He ranks Tendulkar 4th in the list of great Indian batsmen. He rates Kohli, Gavaskar and Sehwag above him. Incredibly it's Sehwag he has on top. However, there are many who rate Gavaskar above Tendulkar.

 

[subshakerz]

Scyld Berry, the chief cricket writer for The Telegraph, would upset a few posters here. He ranks Tendulkar 4th in the list of great Indian batsmen. He rates Kohli, Gavaskar and Sehwag above him. Incredibly it's Sehwag he has on top. However, there are many who rate Gavaskar above Tendulkar.

Pundit opinion doesn't matter to me as much as contemporary player opinion.

 

[kyear2]

I have Smith ahead of Lara.

I do as well

 

[subshakerz]

I do as well

We agree too much.

 

[kyear2]

Scyld Berry, the chief cricket writer for The Telegraph, would upset a few posters here. He ranks Tendulkar 4th in the list of great Indian batsmen. He rates Kohli, Gavaskar and Sehwag above him. Incredibly it's Sehwag he has on top. However, there are many who rate Gavaskar above Tendulkar.

Yeah, I don't get the Sunny part. For the most part just cashed in when it was easier.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Scyld Berry, the chief cricket writer for The Telegraph, would upset a few posters here. He ranks Tendulkar 4th in the list of great Indian batsmen. He rates Kohli, Gavaskar and Sehwag above him. Incredibly it's Sehwag he has on top. However, there are many who rate Gavaskar above Tendulkar.

Gavaskar over Tendulkar is still somewhat debatable; not one I agree with but debatable. Sehwag and Kohli over him is just really bad.....

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah, I don't get the Sunny part. For the most part just cashed in when it was easy

Has plenty of hard fought runs against WI, England and has an ATG record against Pakistan as well. His record in Australia is too much micro managed imo; has one great series against a blazing Thommo with centuries in Gabba and another against a good attack of McDermott, Reid, Hughes and co. Only had a single bad series, that too of 3 matches; and would had most likely scored a century there as well if not for a very poor umpiring call.....

 

[kyear2]

Has plenty of hard fought runs against WI, England and has an ATG record against Pakistan as well. His record in Australia is too much micro managed imo; has one great series against a blazing Thommo with centuries in Gabba and another against a good attack of McDermott, Reid, Hughes and co. Only had a single bad series, that too of 3 matches; and would had most likely scored a century there as well if not for a very poor umpiring call.....

For someone who's reputation was built upon handling / taming fast bowling, he really seemed to struggle on faster tracks and mainly flourished either vs poorer attacks or slower wickets.

But yes, we can agree to disagree.

 

[capt_Luffy]

For someone who's reputation was built upon handling / taming fast bowling, he really seemed to struggle on faster tracks and mainly flourished either vs poorer attacks or slower wickets.

But yes, we can agree to disagree.

It hardly gets tougher than a peak Thommo on a 70s Gabba pitch or Holding and Roberts in WI..... but yeah, ofcourse we can ofcourse always disagree.

 

[peterhrt]

Scyld Berry, the chief cricket writer for The Telegraph, would upset a few posters here. He ranks Tendulkar 4th in the list of great Indian batsmen. He rates Kohli, Gavaskar and Sehwag above him. Incredibly it's Sehwag he has on top. However, there are many who rate Gavaskar above Tendulkar.

Interesting article below by Charles Davis on dropped catches. 37% of chances offered by Sehwag were missed.

Also lists dropped chances by era, team and fielding position, as well as efficiency of some 21st century wicket-keepers.

https://sportstats.com.au/articles/droppedcatches2016.pdf

 

[Coronis]

Interesting article below by Charles Davis on dropped catches. 37% of chances offered by Sehwag were missed.

Also lists dropped chances by era, team and fielding position, as well as efficiency of some 21st century wicket-keepers.

https://sportstats.com.au/articles/droppedcatches2016.pdf

Another top quality work by the bloke.

 

[kyear2]

Interesting article below by Charles Davis on dropped catches. 37% of chances offered by Sehwag were missed.

Also lists dropped chances by era, team and fielding position, as well as efficiency of some 21st century wicket-keepers.

https://sportstats.com.au/articles/droppedcatches2016.pdf

Time consuming and excellent exercise

 

[kyear2]

So if Smith is able to maintain or improve his average and becomes somewhat of a consensus 2nd best ever, who does he replace in an AT XI team. Sachin or IVA?

 

[capt_Luffy]

So if Smith is able to maintain or improve his average and becomes somewhat of a consensus 2nd best ever, who does he replace in an AT XI team. Sachin or IVA?

He is already in my ATG XI, but if he turns himself into a proper opener; he could very well replace Hutton in CW's team....

 

[subshakerz]

So if Smith is able to maintain or improve his average and becomes somewhat of a consensus 2nd best ever, who does he replace in an AT XI team. Sachin or IVA?

IVA likely but frankly even at the current average I am iffy on him. We don't get swayed by Sanga's average so why by Smith's?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Sanga would probably average low 50s in Smith’s era

 

[subshakerz]

Sanga would probably average low 50s in Smith’s era

Not in most of Smiths era.