Richards, Smith, Lara, Hammond

[kyear2]

Lara vs Smith..... I also rank them back to back, so think it's closer; while there are 2 batsmen between Viv and Smith for me.

Really? Which two?

 

[kyear2]

Lara doesn’t have as complete a record as Viv, a problem against high pace and got to cash in on the 2000s.

Did anyone really dominate the 2Ws and Donald?

Btw, guys, I will be taking your absence for a couple of weeks. Got some interviews coming up, which require total attention. Thanks for the time spent debating about one of the things we are all equally mad about.

Good luck and hope they go well

 

[capt_Luffy]

Really? Which two?

One is as stated earlier, Lara; and the other is Gavaskar.

 

[kyear2]

Tendulkar, Hobbs, Sobers, Viv and Smith are to me number ones of their respective eras and you can make good cases for either being best after Bradman.

You do keep skipping the Prince.

 

[Coronis]

You do keep skipping the Prince.

Well he wasn’t number one of his respective era was he?

 

[kyear2]

Well he wasn’t number one of his respective era was he?

Debatable, but still doesn't disqualify him from the argument

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Yea feels harsh to penalize Lara for not being #1 in his era. Viv wouldn’t be #1 either if he played with Sachin.

 

[kyear2]

Yea feels harsh to penalize Lara for not being #1 in his era. Viv wouldn’t be #1 either if he played with Sachin.

That would be very much up for discussion.

 

[Coronis]

I mean the post was specifically saying x y and z were the best batsmen of their eras

 

[Prince EWS]

Yessss. Posters on CW do this all the time where they evaluate the difficulty of facing attacks by their careers rather than how they actually bowled. For older matches I understand that mindset, but for games you've watched, surely the actual performance level of the bowler on the day/series is what you should keep in mind.

Yeah, Shane Warne bowling in India with a broken toenail isn't actually formidable opponent.

 

[subshakerz]

Debatable, but still doesn't disqualify him from the argument

He IMO was slightly behind Tendulkar in terms of being rated that way.

Let me out it this way, the others have been more seriously discussed as the best since Bradman at various point in their careers and after.

 

[kyear2]

He IMO was slightly behind Tendulkar in terms of being rated that way.

Let me out it this way, the others have been more seriously discussed as the best since Bradman at various point in their careers and after.

The discussion was held with regards to Lara as well, and even in this poll, it's apparent he has his fans.

Also he mightn't be the greatest, but I've seen Sachin, a little of Viv and Smith and he's without doubt the best I've seen.

 

[subshakerz]

Yea feels harsh to penalize Lara for not being #1 in his era. Viv wouldn’t be #1 either if he played with Sachin.

Debatable.

 

[kyear2]

For me, Smith has to average around where he is now, to rank above Viv. That would mean he has maintained an average of 50+ from 2018, and that will be good enough

Who you scores against is just as important as maintaining the average.

There's a reason Hammond isn't in this horse race and the likes of Weeks, Barrington or Walcott aren't in the conversation.

 

[subshakerz]

The discussion was held with regards to Lara as well, and even in this poll, it's apparent he has his fans.

Also he mightn't be the greatest, but I've seen Sachin, a little of Viv and Smith and he's without doubt the best I've seen.

Don't think there were discussion of Lara seriously being better than Sobers in his career, no?

Tendulkar was given that sort of hallowed glow.

 

[subshakerz]

Who you scores against is just as important as maintaining the average.

There's a reason Hammond isn't in this horse race and the likes of Weeks, Barrington or Walcott aren't in the conversation.

There are more high quality pace attacks now that you can argue Smith will be more tested by.

 

[kyear2]

Don't think there were discussion of Lara seriously being better than Sobers in his career, no?

Tendulkar was given that sort of hallowed glow.

I think Tendulkar superceded Lara by a hair during their era, I don't dispute that. But does that automatically place him outside of even the argument?

 

[kyear2]

There are more high quality pace attacks now that you can argue Smith will be more tested by.

Hence why I said, depends who he scored them against.

Didn't say it wasn't possible.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Yea I think if Viv is a candidate for best after Bradman, Lara should be too

 

[kyear2]

Quite the list then.

Tendulkar
Sobers
Hobbs

Richards
Lara
Smith