What is your ALL TIME WORLD XI TEAM for tests?

[Coronis]

Don't let their identical premises and content fool you, they differ in some key areas:

Always nice to see a fellow fan.

 

[Coronis]

Not necessarily the teams I would field, but the historically best Red ball cricket teams:

1st Team:

Sir John Berry Hobbs
William Gilbert Grace
Sir Donald George Bradman (captain)
Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar
Steven Peter Devereaux Smith
Sir Garifield St Aubrun Sobers
Adam Craig Gilchrist (wicketkeeper)
Sir Richard John Hadlee
Malcolm Denzil Marshall
Shane Keith Warne
Glenn Donald McGrath


2nd Team:

Sir Leonard Hutton
Sunil Manohar Gavaskar
Kumar Chokshanada Sangakkara (wicketkeeper)
Walter Reginald Hammond
Brian Charles Lara
Sir Isaac Vivian Alexander Richards
Imran Ahmad Khan Niazi (captain)
Wasim Akram
Sir Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose
Deshabandu Mutthiah Muralitharan
Sydney Francis Barnes

3rd Team:

Herbert Sutcliffe
Victor Thomas Trumper
George Alphonso Headley
Robert Graeme Pollock
Gregory Stephen Chappell
Jacques Henry Kallis
Andrew Flower (wicketkeeper And captain)
Frederick Sewards Trueman
Dennis Keith Lillee
William Joseph O'Reilly
Dale Willem Steyn

4th Team:

Barry Anderson Richards
Sir Geoffrey Boycott
Rahul Sharad Dravid
Allan Robert Border (captain)
Ricky Thomas Ponting
Keith Ross Miller
Michael George Procter
Leslie Ethelbert George Ames (wicketkeeper)
Ravichandran Ashwin
Michael Anthony Holding
Allan Anthony Donald

5th Team:

Graeme Craig Smith
Robert Baddeley Simpson
Kenneth Frank Barrington
Sir Everton DeCourcy Weekes
Sir Clyde Leopold Walcott (wicketkeeper)
Stephen Rodger Waugh (captain)
Sir Ian Terrence Botham
Alan Keith Davidson
Raymond Russell Lindwall
James Charles Laker
Joel Garner

6th Team:

Sir Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge
Matthew Lawrence Hayden
Joseph Edward Root
Virat Kohli (captain)
Mohammad Javed Miandad
Abraham Benjamin de Villiers
Alan Philip Eric Knott (wicketkeeper)
Shaun MacLean Pollock
Clarence Victor Grimmett
Waqar Younis Maitla
Courtney Andrew Walsh

7th Team:

Arthur Shrewsbury
Virendra Sehwag
Kane Stuart Williamson
Arthur Dudley Nourse
Robert Neil Harvey
Frank Edward Woolley
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (wicketkeeper And captain)
Hedley Verity
Patrick James Cummins
Sir Anderson Montgomery Everton Roberts
James Michael Anderson


8th Team:

Arthur Robert Morris
Wilfred Rhodes
Sir Frank Mortimer Maglinne Worrell (captain)
Denis Charles Scott Compton
Mohammad Younis Khan
Kumar Sri Sir Ranjitsinhji Vibhaji II
Bradley-John Watling (wicketkeeper)
George Alfred Lohman
Anil Kumble
Sir Alec Victor Bedser
Kagiso Rabada


9th Team:

William Morris Lawry (captain)
Bruce Mitchell
Clement Hill
Rohan Bholalall Kanhai
Martin David Crowe
Khondaker Shakib Al Hasan
Denis Thomson Lindsay (wicketkeeper)
Kapil Dev Nikhanj
Hugh Joseph Tayfield
John Brian Statham
Robert George Dylan Willis


10th Team:

William Harold Ponsford
Sir Alaistar Nathan Cook
Charles George MaCartney
Peter Barker Howard May
Sir Clive Hubert Lloyd (captain)
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
John Henry Bickford Waite (wicketkeeper)
Richard Benaud
Harold Larwood
Frederick Robert Spofforth
Thomas Richardson

11th Team:

Vijay Singh Madhavji Merchant
Graham Alan Gooch
Stanley Joseph McCabe
Deshabandu Pinnaduwage Aravinda De Silva (captain)
Syed Inzamam-ul-Haq
Vangipurapu Venkata Sai Laxman
Horace Brackenridge Cameron (wicketkeeper)
Vernon Daryl Philander
Frank Holmes Tyson
Neil Amwin Treharne Adcock
Lancelot Richard Gibbs

Kinda surprised at Flower as captain. Sure he captained his country, but he was never a reliable choice with that. Given the XI I’d definitely have Chappell captaining. (especially with Lillee in there)

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kinda surprised at Flower as captain. Sure he captained his country, but he was never a reliable choice with that. Given the XI I’d definitely have Chappell captaining. (especially with Lillee in there)

Chappell was a piece of ****... Don't want him to take any decision and make a sound win into cricket's most controversial moment

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Chappell was a piece of ****... Don't want him to take any decision and make a sound win into cricket's most controversial moment

Actually the underarm is 42 years ago today

 

[TheJediBrah]

Kinda surprised at Flower as captain. Sure he captained his country, but he was never a reliable choice with that. Given the XI I’d definitely have Chappell captaining. (especially with Lillee in there)

Flower as captain is 10000x more reasonable than Flower as keeper

horrible choice

 

[capt_Luffy]

Flower as captain is 10000x more reasonable than Flower as keeper

horrible choice

He did kept wickets in all but 8 of his 63 matches..... So clearly, keeping wickets doesn't affects his batting too much, and I don't think he was a horrible keeper; sub average, sure but definitely not 'that bad'

 

[TheJediBrah]

Flower did wicket keep. As in he wore gloves and stood behind the stumps.

He's an acceptable keeper the way a protein bar is an acceptable dessert

 

[kyear2]

Asia XI
Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Miandad
Sangakkara(wk)
Imran(c)
Wasim
Waqar
Murali
Bumrah

YK unlucky. Which spinner/s would come in if the conditions were right?

SH XI (Minus Bradman)
Smith
Hayden
Ponting
Kallis
Smith
Border(c)
Gilchrist(wk)
Hadlee
Warne
Donald
Mcgrath

Lots of tough choices here. Simpson and Lawry considered for opening. Chappell and Waugh in the middle order. Lillee's m.o. post back injury wasn't that different to Hadlee's so i decided on Donald.

ROW XI
Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Richards(c)
Lara
Sobers
Knott(wk)
Marshall
Verity
Holding
Ambrose

Hammond vs Headley was close. Went with the former due to his better record against Australia. Small sample size for Headley but meh. Picked Holding over Garner because i think Holding offers something very different whereas Garner overlaps quite a bit with Ambrose. Verity vs Laker is a debate that will run and I was deciding what to do with Barnes and ended up not picking him as I didn't know who of Verity and Holding to ditch. Richards is captain over Hutton and Sobers due to having captained three of the bowlers during his career.

Which is the best team?

SC

Gavaskar ^
Sehwag
Dravid ^
Tendulkar
Younis ^
Sangakkara +
Imran *
Ashwin
Wasim
Muralitharan
Bumrah

NH

Hobbs
Hutton
Richards
Lara
Hammond
Sobers
Knott
Marshall
Verity
Garner
Ambrose

SH

Smith
Smith
Bradman
Kallis
Ponting / Chappell / Pollock
Border
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Warne
Steyn
McGrath


The southern hemisphere would likely take that TRI series.


How about?


Ashes

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Smith
Hammond
Ponting
Gilchrist
Warne
Trueman
Lillee
McGrath

Sub Continent

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Younis
Sangakkara
Imran
Jadeja
Wasim
Muralitharan
Bumrah

Rest Of the World

Smith
Greenidge / Richards
Richards
Lara
Kallis
Sobers
Cameron
Hadlee
Marshall
Steyn
Tayfield

Think this one is far more balanced and much more open competition?

 

[Coronis]

SC

Gavaskar ^
Sehwag
Dravid ^
Tendulkar
Younis ^
Sangakkara +
Imran *
Ashwin
Wasim
Muralitharan
Bumrah

NH

Hobbs
Hutton
Richards
Lara
Hammond
Sobers
Knott
Marshall
Verity
Garner
Ambrose

SH

Smith
Smith
Bradman
Kallis
Ponting / Chappell / Pollock
Border
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Warne
Steyn
McGrath


The southern hemisphere would likely take that TRI series.


How about?


Ashes

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Smith
Hammond
Ponting
Gilchrist
Warne
Trueman
Lillee
McGrath

Sub Continent

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Khan
Sangakkara
Imran
Jadeja
Wasim
Muralitharan
Bumrah

Rest Of the World

Smith
Greenidge / Richards
Richards
Lara
Kallis
Sobers
Cameron
Hadlee
Marshall
Steyn
Tayfield

Think this one is far more balanced and much more open competition?

You have Bumrah ahead of Waqar already? Also please don’t write Younis as Khan - its just confusing. I’d also personally go with Flower > Cameron or even AB if you don’t trust Flower’s keeping enough.

 

[Migara]

If you have Wasim, Imran, Bumrah and Murali as bowlers, I would replace Ashwin with Akthar, and use him in 4 over bursts. If he clicks he will demolish any batting line up. If he doesn't, there is four other bowlers who are damn steady and can bowl long spells.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Sub Continent:

Team 1:
Virendra Sehwag
Sunil Gavaskar
Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
Sachin Tendulkar
Rahul Dravid
Javed Miandad
Imran Khan (c)
Ravindra Jadeja
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Mutthiah Muralitharan

Team 2:
Vijay Merchant
Hanif Mohammad
Younis Khan
Virat Kohli
Inzamam Ul Haq
Shakib Al Hasan
M S Dhoni (wk&c)
Kapil Dev
Ravichandran Ashwin
Shoaib Akhtar
Jasprit Bumrah


Northern Hemisphere:

Team 1:
Jack Hobbs
W G Grace (c)
Wally Hammond
Brian Lara
Viv Richards
Garry Sobers
Les Ames (wk)
Malcolm Marshall
Jim Laker
Curtly Ambrose
Sydney Barnes

Team 2:
Len Hutton (c)
Herbert Sutcliffe
George Headley
Everton Weekes
Ken Barrington
Clyde Walcott (wk)
Ian Botham
Hedily Verity
Fred Trueman
Michael Holding
Joel Garner


Southern Hemisphere:

Team 1:
Victor Trumper
Barry Richards
Don Bradman (c)
Greg Chappell
Jacques Kallis
Steve Smith
Adam Gilchrist (wk)
Richard Hadlee
Shane Warne
Dale Steyn
Glenn McGrath

Team 2:
Bob Simpson
Graeme Smith
Ricky Ponting
Graeme Pollock
Allan Border (c)
Andy Flower (wk)
Keith Miller
Ray Lindwall
Dennis Lillee
Bill O'Reilly
Allan Donald

 

[kyear2]

You have Bumrah ahead of Waqar already? Also please don’t write Younis as Khan - its just confusing. I’d also personally go with Flower > Cameron or even AB if you don’t trust Flower’s keeping enough.

Agreed, oversight and corrected

 

[kyear2]

If you have Wasim, Imran, Bumrah and Murali as bowlers, I would replace Ashwin with Akthar, and use him in 4 over bursts. If he clicks he will demolish any batting line up. If he doesn't, there is four other bowlers who are damn steady and can bowl long spells.

And a wasted batting spot for a hit or miss proposition.

 

[kyear2]

You have Bumrah ahead of Waqar already? Also please don’t write Younis as Khan - its just confusing. I’d also personally go with Flower > Cameron or even AB if you don’t trust Flower’s keeping enough.

As in better? Yes, I think so?

Not greater, but better.

 

[Krypto]

As in better? Yes, I think so?

Not greater, but better.

I am not sure how your rating Waqar below Bumrah. He is slightly ahead of Dev, Vaas and Khan imo. And there is minimum of 160 wickets between then, taking that Bumrah only crossed 140 wickets now that is a large number. To get to Waqar he still need 230 wickets at the same Sr that's an incredible career.

 

[kyear2]

I am not sure how your rating Waqar below Bumrah. He is slightly ahead of Dev, Vaas and Khan imo. And there is minimum of 160 wickets between then, taking that Bumrah only crossed 140 wickets now that is a large number. To get to Waqar he still need 230 wickets at the same Sr that's an incredible career.

I was clear to say that I don't think he's greater, just think he brings something different to the table.

 

[kyear2]

SC

Gavaskar ^
Sehwag
Dravid ^
Tendulkar
Younis ^
Sangakkara +
Imran *
Ashwin
Wasim
Muralitharan
Bumrah

NH

Hobbs
Hutton
Richards
Lara
Hammond
Sobers
Knott
Marshall
Verity
Garner
Ambrose

SH

Smith
Smith
Bradman
Kallis
Ponting / Chappell / Pollock
Border
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Warne
Steyn
McGrath


The southern hemisphere would likely take that TRI series.


How about?


Ashes

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Smith
Hammond
Ponting
Gilchrist
Warne
Trueman
Lillee
McGrath

Sub Continent

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Younis
Sangakkara
Imran
Jadeja
Wasim
Muralitharan
Bumrah

Rest Of the World

Smith
Greenidge / Richards
Richards
Lara
Kallis
Sobers
Cameron
Hadlee
Marshall
Steyn
Tayfield

Think this one is far more balanced and much more open competition?

Who wins though?

Ashes, SC, ROW?

 

[Coronis]

Who wins though?

Ashes, SC, ROW?

Ashes.

Best top 6, Gilchrist, Warne, probably best fielding? RoW has the best pace attack but not enough to make up the difference.

Its basically take the best Country’s All Time XI and fixing the one area they’re lacking (openers - though technically only to England and India really). SC would beat RoW in Asia but RoW is pretty much guaranteed to beat them outside Asia.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

The underrating of Waqar is getting insane. Peak Waqar was the best bowler to ever walk this planet. Idk how playing lot longer than Bumrah degrades his ranking knowing he was lot better bowler than Bumrah at the same stage of his career.

 

[Coronis]

Waqar after 33 tests: 190 wickets @ 19.15, 19 5’fers 36.0 SR

Bumrah after 33 tests: 146 wickets @ 20.81, 9 5’fers 45.9 SR

Similad time periods actually ~5-6 years

Plus Waqar played another 54 matches after that