Who is the best batsman from your country with a Test Batting Average of under 40 ?

[Silver Silva]

Ijaz for you guys maybe? 6 tons against 90s Australia

What about a bloke named Imran Khan

 

[howitzer]

What about a bloke named Imran Khan

Nah. Bloke was a decent bat but definitely not better than the likes of Majid, Ijaz and Mushtaq Mohammad

 

[BazBall21]

Ijaz for you guys maybe? 6 tons against 90s Australia

Ijaz Ahmed must be a top 3 batsman from Pakistan in Australian conditions ever.

 

[BazBall21]

Lamb.

Majid for us though, yeah.

Lamb is a frustration. Looks quality whereas Gatting sucked against pace.

 

[Ali TT]

Stewart
Attapattu
Trumper
Hooper
Majid
Miller
Botham/Shakib
Mushfiqur+
Imran
Jadeja
Hadlee

Reckon that's a pretty good side given the strength of the bowling and length of the tail!

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Think it might be Stokes.

A lot of people would probably go with Stewart though.

Atherton?

Would probably have averaged 40+ but for his chronic back trouble.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Lamb is a frustration. Looks quality whereas Gatting sucked against pace.

Lamb was clueless against spin, fat Gatt was good against it, then some bloke called Warne appeared

 

[BazBall21]

Lamb was clueless against spin, fat Gatt was good against it, then some bloke called Warne appeared

I would take a good player of pace who's poor against spin over a good player of spin who's poor against pace.

Gatting was cut from the same cloth as Graeme Hick. Slayers of medium pace on flat tracks and wrist spin that were too fundamentally rigid to handle quality fast bowling. Hence both had big disparities between their FC average and Test average. Ramprakash was a more puzzling case.

 

[OverratedSanity]

WI: Carl Hooper.

Larry Gomes has a case

 

[BazBall21]

Post-war

1) Stewart
2) Atherton
3) Stokes
4) Lamb
5) Botham

There's surely a decent top 3 bat better than Botham in that time I'm forgetting. Decided on him over Gatting and Nasser for how dangerous he was in the first half of his career.

All-time, King Arthur has a good case outside WG. Stands up well to Trumper and Hill in low-scoring tests despite poorer rep.

 

[Ashes81]

For England it's got to be Stewie.

Opened alot of the time and of course kept wicket, he was a fine player when as a team we were very average.

Honourable mention to the Gnome - Keith Fletcher. Would have averaged over 40 but the mauling he took from Lillee and Thommo down under in 74/5.

Great player of spin and very shrewed captain as well.

 

[SeamUp]

Talent wise it has to be Quinton De Kock for SA in my opinion..

Followed by Markram.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Manjrekar is an excellent shout tbh

Ajinkya Rahane and KL Rahul other valid shouts for India

Murali Vijay too imo

 

[Molehill]

Post-war

1) Stewart
2) Atherton
3) Stokes
4) Lamb
5) Botham

There's surely a decent top 3 bat better than Botham in that time I'm forgetting. Decided on him over Gatting and Nasser for how dangerous he was in the first half of his career.

All-time, King Arthur has a good case outside WG. Stands up well to Trumper and Hill in low-scoring tests despite poorer rep.

Stewart and Atherton would've averaged over 40 if they hadn't played in literally the worst time to be an opening bat for England.

 

[Bolo.]

Followed by Markram.

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Jimmy Cook and Peter Kirsten also worth a shout for talent.

 

[SeamUp]

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Jimmy Cook and Peter Kirsten also worth a shout for talent.

True. I guess they qualify but tough on them that most of their tests were at 40 basically.

 

[Slifer]

Larry Gomes has a case

He does and I actually thought about him. But Carl was imo way more talented. And Carl made runs vs the WWs home and away, vs McWarne away and he made runs vs Kumble in India ('94).

 

[capt_Luffy]

India XI under 40:
1. Syed Mustaq Ali
2. Vinoo Mankad
3. Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi (c)
4. C K Nayudu
5. Vijay Manjrekar
6. Chandu Borde
7. M S Dhoni
8. Ravindra Jadeja
9. Kapil Dev
10.Irfan Pathan
11.Ravichandran Ashwin

12th man: Ravi Shastri


Australia XI under 40:
1. Colin McDonald
2. Joe Darling
3. Clem Hill
4. Victor Trumper
5. Kim Hughes (c)
6. Warwick Armstrong
7. Keith Miller
8. Jack Gregory
9. Ian Healy
10.Richie Benaud
11.Hugh Trumble

12th man: Monty Noble


England XI under 40:
1. W G Grace (c)
2. Arthur Shrewsbury
3. Alec Stewart
4. Allan Lamb
5. Ben Stokes
6. Frank Woolley
7. Ian Botham
8. Alan Knott
9. Wilfred Rhodes
10.Trevor Bailey
11.Maurice Tate

12th man: Andrew Flintoff


South Africa XI under 40:
1. Trevor Goddard (c)
2. Dean Elgar
3. Jimmy Cook
4. Peter Kirsten
5. Neil McKenzie
6. Hancie Cronje
7. Brian McMillan
8. Denis Lindsay
9. Mike Procter
10. Jimmy Sinclair
11. Shaun Pollock


12th Man: Quinton de Kock

 

[Socerer 01]

Murali Vijay too imo

Vijay feels like a 39-41 averaging guy. it stabilised around that from mid to late 2014 till his last match

Rahane’s is far sadder. went from a mid to high 40s to a steady decline to low 40s and then into 38 by the time he was pushed out barring one recovery period of stability. a waste of talent

 

[BazBall21]

Stewart and Atherton would've averaged over 40 if they hadn't played in literally the worst time to be an opening bat for England.

Stewart did average 44 as a top 3 bat and 46 as a specialist bat anyway. Frequently batting him in positions that didn't suit him and keeping workload sometimes even when he was batting top 4 shafted him.

Atherton averages mid-40s in Strauss' time. Especially without the back condition.