PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Two top tier quicks
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Imran Khan vs Allan Donald
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Imran. Multiple epic series across countries, unlike Donald, and awesome at home.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Imran is like Thanos in these types of comparisons.
kyear2
International Coach
Hard to argue against all 3.
As I said in the Donald / Lillee comp, they're basically equal in my mind, and that's the same here.
Think I mentioned this before, the bowlers I feared.
Very briefly Waqar, Donald and McWarne. I remember Wasim giving Hayes issues and having to change up his technique, but Donald made Lara look like he was scared at times.
I have Imran, Donald and Lillee in the same category. I've managed to hype Trueman up in my head, and Garner is always there, but not sure if in the same grouping as those 3. But guess that's my top 10 right there.
None of the three are top 3 quality, and lack that one special something imo to jump into the next tier, but devastating and deserving to be here.
I'm glad that at least I was able to encourage people to take a second look at White Lightning, he really was destructive and something special, and previously criminally under rated.
Slifer
International Captain
The only issue with Garner really is the lack of 10 fors and he just didn't play enough tests relative to someone like Ambrose or McGrath. But as a pure bowler ie taking wickets at a miserly rate and reasonable sr, few are were better than Joel. Greater maybe but not better.
Also agree with your assessment of Donald. I just personally love how the man operated. Lara tried his best to get on top on Donald in '98 but Donald was like screw that and made Lara look amateur.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Yea Garner was basically Ambrose with 150 less wickets
Slifer
International Captain
Believe it or not, as a bowler I think Garner was better just not greater if that makes any sense. Garner took wickets out of the equation completely and wasn't afraid to pitch the ball up. As Boycott, once said, no one hit Joel, not even Viv.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Imran has multiple series-defining performances away from home, multiple tenfers in major away victories in Australia, England and WI, and Donald just has pretty averages away frankly.
He has a better home record despite playing on much flatter pitches.
Imran excelled home and away against the best side in the world, WI, while Donald was below par against Australia most of his career.
Imran wins this.
He has a better home record despite playing on much flatter pitches.
Imran excelled home and away against the best side in the world, WI, while Donald was below par against Australia most of his career.
Imran wins this.
Calm_profit
State Vice-Captain
Tough choice but going with Donald because I tried to bowl like him but instead I was bowling 120 kmph pies.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Vote for him to tie it up
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
By ATG standards perhaps Imran was below par in Aus and Ind. otherwise atleast in Aus, he was reasonably good.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Imran was great at home and ATG in WI, reasonably good in Aus(if you look at the context of his last tour and the brilliant performances in WSC)and Eng. He was ok in Ind. Donald was great at home, great vs Eng, reasonably good vs WI, good vs Aus(but far below Ambrose vs Aus or Imran vs WI or Steyn vs Ind). So Imran. For fast bowlers I’d go:
Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose/Imran
Dobald
Lillee/Akram
Marshall
Mcgrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Ambrose/Imran
Dobald
Lillee/Akram
kyear2
International Coach
But who are we comparing them to?
And if Donald was below par in Australia, as quoted above, what's the difference? You also previously said Imran was below par in India, he averaged the same in India and Australia....
He was, for the group he's in and the players he's being compared to. Below par in India and Australia.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
It’s just that for Aus, Imran has the context of last tour, where he bowled like half the overs Wasim did, and the WSC performances that push his case. In Ind, no such context. Donald and Imran are close in Aus, I’d take Imran in the end cause of his WSC performances. And in my next post, I have said Donald was good vs Aus. And I agree by ATG standards, none of them were brilliant in Aus