*Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

[Owzat]

Anyway, India is a tough tour at the best of times but all the 5-0 shouts seem horribly misplaced to me. We won a Test there last tour when we were a much weaker outfit. This England side is more than the sum of its parts as it’s repeatedly shown.

I don’t think it’s as unbalanced as is being said either; Root is probably fine as fifth bowler in the conditions we can expect.

Crawley
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Bairstow
Rehan
Robinson
Anderson/Wood
Leach

Not a bad side IMO.

England won a Test by scoring 550+ and IIRC the Indians made a mistake of not putting out a turning wicket

England managed less than 250 in each of their last six innings

205 & 135
112 & 81
134 & 164

it is England's usual inability to score 300+ makes them ripe to lose, yet a lot of the talk on beeb HYS is about Foakes and Dawson, not so much about their batting ability but does make me laugh that England picked FOUR spinners and Ahmed about the pick of them as a batsman!

 

[Xix2565]

England won a Test by scoring 550+ and IIRC the Indians made a mistake of not putting out a turning wicket

To be fair, that was a pitch in a stadium being used for back to back Tests in Covid lockdowns. The problem India had was more that it was a win-toss, win-game pitch where the set of conditions on the first couple of days heavily favoured the team batting first and after than it was too difficult to catch up or survive. Whether this is a mistake in pitch preparation or not is probably YMMV.

And honestly the ability to score is dictated heavily by the bowlers you face and the conditions you bat in, so I'm not that surprised at the discussion around who's left out or got picked to tour.

 

[mackembhoy]

Lions Squad and fixtures against India A

Takes place before and concurrently with the main series

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1734884095388164562

 

[Third_Man]

Lions Squad and fixtures against India A

Takes place before and concurrently with the main series

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1734884095388164562

Balderson, Ryan Patel, James and de Caires axed from the earlier Lions training squad. Whilst others promoted to the senior squads like Turner, Bashir and Hartley.

 

[Molehill]

Lions Squad and fixtures against India A

Takes place before and concurrently with the main series

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1734884095388164562

I think Macpherson meant Carson rather than Carse as one of those most likely to be added to the main squad.

 

[mackembhoy]

I think Macpherson meant Carson rather than Carse as one of those most likely to be added to the main squad.

Does he? Were more likely to break down in the seam department than the spin one.

Wood, Robinson and Anderson(these days) aren't exactly known for their ability to play 5 tests on the bounce. Hasn't Atkinson had long term injury problems too?

 

[Molehill]

Does he? Were more likely to break down in the seam department than the spin one.

Wood, Robinson and Anderson(these days) aren't exactly known for their ability to play 5 tests on the bounce. Hasn't Atkinson had long term injury problems too?

It was more a point on who should've been there in the first place.

 

[ImpatientLime]

jesus christ is carse really next cab off the rank? i don't care if they barely break 80mph, he should not be going ahead of porter, cook, bamber et al

 

[mackembhoy]

jesus christ is carse really next cab off the rank? i don't care if they barely break 80mph, he should not be going ahead of porter, cook, bamber et al

Being able to bat as bowler has been giving players the nod ahead of those more worthy for a good 15 years.

There's also the being an usable backup in case of injury which Carse/Lawes are for Wood/Atkinson. If anything Potts and Fisher are the ones ahead of Porter/Cook as the Jimmy/Robinson backup.

Bamber I have no idea about. He looks 12 not 24!! Have seen the name but can't think I've seen him bowl.

 

[Molehill]

I see Talksport have got the commentary rights ahead of TMS. That will reduce the numbers listening in by a significant amount I'd imagine. It's so much fun hearing a bit of commentary squeezed in amongst gambling ads.....and truly terrible commentators too (FFS McKenna again).

BBC Sounds announced it's top listened to shows during the year, the Top 24 were TMS Ashes related.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Talksport cricket coverage has always been poor. Try to be different to TMS but just don't get it right at all.

 

[GIMH]

Talksport cricket coverage has always been poor. Try to be different to TMS but just don't get it right at all.

Also love that on their podcast they get Harmison’s views and then he qualifies them by saying he didn’t actually watch the match in question. Cheers Steve

 

[Daemon]

Women’s team giving us a sneak preview of how it’s going to go down

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Women’s team giving us a sneak preview of how it’s going to go down

Probably

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Also love that on their podcast they get Harmison’s views and then he qualifies them by saying he didn’t actually watch the match in question. Cheers Steve

Can I get a gig on this show

 

[Blenkinsop]

How the hell does Callum Parkinson get into an England squad ahead of Matt Parkinson?

 

[Yeoman]

Alphabetical order

 

[Molehill]

Can I get a gig on this show

Depends on whether you plan to offer any notable insight?

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

No it doesn't, it's a podcast.

 

[ImpatientLime]

Good to know