3rd Best English Pacer/Medium pacer

[peterhrt]

Wow. Your posts are really really well thought out and very informative. Who do you consider among your top 5 AT bowlers then?

In chronological order: Barnes, O'Reilly, Lillee, Hadlee and Marshall.

 

[howitzer]

In chronological order: Barnes, O'Reilly, Lillee, Hadlee and Marshall.

Absence of McGrath is interesting

 

[peterhrt]

Oh well, we can hardly find a bowler like Geoff Miller; a bowler who dominated Australia but was useless pretty much against everyone else....
Might go with either Laker or Tayfield as the spinner.

Ian Chappell reckons the best bowling he has seen in Australia by a visiting spinner was by Prasanna during the 1967-68 series.

 

[peterhrt]

Absence of McGrath is interesting

He is close. Numbers excellent but not generally rated as highly in England as in Australia despite good record here. Often presented as Warne's sidekick, admittedly by Warne's fellow Sky commentators. Eye test, however superficial, places others above him.

Similar situation with Steve Smith.

 

[howitzer]

He is close. Numbers excellent but not generally rated as highly in England as in Australia despite good record here. Often presented as Warne's sidekick, admittedly by Warne's fellow Sky commentators. Eye test, however superficial, places others above him.

Similar situation with Steve Smith.

I believe they are mistaken

 

[peterhrt]

I believe they are mistaken

Perhaps.

For Cricinfo's all-time Australian team in 2009, all ten Aussie judges voted for Lillee and five for McGrath. Later Cricinfo asked eight former captains and four cricket historians to pick their World XI, and Lillee, Marshall and Wasim were the quicks. Their second eleven featured Trueman, Imran and Barnes. McGrath made the Readers' team which included a higher proportion of recent players.

With memories and reputations fading with the passing of time, and more focus on statistical performance in different host countries, McGrath may have caught up.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Perhaps.

For Cricinfo's all-time Australian team in 2009, all ten Aussie judges voted for Lillee and five for McGrath. Later Cricinfo asked eight former captains and four cricket historians to pick their World XI, and Lillee, Marshall and Wasim were the quicks. Their second eleven featured Trueman, Imran and Barnes. McGrath made the Readers' team which included a higher proportion of recent players.

With memories and reputations fading with the passing of time, and more focus on statistical performance in different host countries, McGrath may have caught up.

On that Cricinfo team, Wasim over Imran and Hadlee and Lillee over McGrath and Barnes has always been a little strange to me....

 

[kyear2]

I think CW probably selected the best attack.

For me, there can't possibly have a better opening partnership than Marshall and McGrath. And this is stylistically, by record and how they compliment each other.

Marshall's pace, swing aggressing paired with McGrath's testing your technique outside the off stump.

The 3rd slot, Imran, Steyn and Akram all have viable arguments and for different reasons.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

In chronological order: Barnes, O'Reilly, Lillee, Hadlee and Marshall.

Just love O’Reilly being in the 5. I would have McGrath instead of Lillee. Rest of the list is excellent imho.