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Create an all time best Test XI using only one player from each country...

Coronis

International Coach
Why not? Got enough batting so I wanted a destroyer with the reversing ball.

I can't really split the big 3 from Pakistan anyway. All mighty players and not a lot between them. Each have their own attributes
Well Waqar is generally rated the lowest - for good reason and the others can also contribute with the bat, whilst being better/equal at worst bowlers. Unless it was specifically a peak XI I doubt I’d ever pick Waqar first with the other two as options. Just seems strange to me, but to each their own.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Well Waqar is generally rated the lowest - for good reason and the others can also contribute with the bat, whilst being better/equal at worst bowlers. Unless it was specifically a peak XI I doubt I’d ever pick Waqar first with the other two as options. Just seems strange to me, but to each their own.
I just think back and the one pace bowler of the 3 who struck fear in me thinking he'd destroy us was Waqar. I think he suffers from Botham syndrome in that he played too much as a crock and you forget just how brilliant he was as a youngster.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Jack Hobbs (England)
Sunil Gavaskar (India)
Don Bradman (Australia)
Andy Flower (Zimbabwe) (wk)
Garry Sobers (West Indies)
Shakib Al Hasan (Bangladesh)
Imran Khan (Pakistan) (c)
Richard Hadlee (New Zealand)
Rashid Khan (Afghanistan)
Dale Steyn (South Africa)
Mutthiah Muralitharan (Sri Lanka)
 

Red_Ink_Squid

Global Moderator
Jack Hobbs (England)
Sunil Gavaskar (India)
Don Bradman (Australia)
Andy Flower (Zimbabwe) (wk)
Garry Sobers (West Indies)
Shakib Al Hasan (Bangladesh)
Imran Khan (Pakistan) (c)
Richard Hadlee (New Zealand)
Rashid Khan (Afghanistan)
Dale Steyn (South Africa)
Mutthiah Muralitharan (Sri Lanka)
Looks sensible (apart from the glaring omission of Woakes). Possibly overloaded on spin though with Murali, Shakib, Rashid + Sobers?

Could ditch Rashid Khan for O'Brien or Hashmat maybe, or even Murali for Sanga to stack the batting.
 

Coronis

International Coach
Looks sensible (apart from the glaring omission of Woakes). Possibly overloaded on spin though with Murali, Shakib, Rashid + Sobers?

Could ditch Rashid Khan for O'Brien or Hashmat maybe, or even Murali for Sanga to stack the batting.
I doubt Sobers would bowl much spin unless it was a massive raging turner.

He mostly bowled pace anyway.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Looks sensible (apart from the glaring omission of Woakes). Possibly overloaded on spin though with Murali, Shakib, Rashid + Sobers?

Could ditch Rashid Khan for O'Brien or Hashmat maybe, or even Murali for Sanga to stack the batting.
I mean I have already Imran, Steyn and Hadlee as proper pacers and Sobers was more comfortable delivering medium pace..... But yeah, the teams much stronger in a turning track. The batting has sufficient depth, though I was considering Harry Tector, Kevin O'Brien and Mohammad Nabi for Rashid.
 

Qlder

International Debutant
1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Viv Richards
4. Javed Miandad
5. Andy Flower
6. Keith Miller
7. Ian Botham
8. Shakib Al Hasan
9. Richard Hadlee
10. Dale Steyn
11. Rashid Khan
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Viv Richards
4. Javed Miandad
5. Andy Flower
6. Keith Miller
7. Ian Botham
8. Shakib Al Hasan
9. Richard Hadlee
10. Dale Steyn
11. Rashid Khan
Why not just trade Richards for Sobers and Miller for Don...... I mean, you kinda can't make an ATG XI without Don
 

The Hillside

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Kumar Sangakkara
3. Viv Richards
4. Javed Miandad
5. Andy Flower
6. Keith Miller
7. Ian Botham
8. Shakib Al Hasan
9. Richard Hadlee
10. Dale Steyn
11. Rashid Khan
Although some posters like flexibility when making such tight lists...but Kumar Sangakarra as an opener in Tests seems odd to me...considering he only played 2 tests in that position...scoring only 68 of his 12400 test career runs...

And why would you have Shakib Al Hasan batting at no.8? Again kinda odd....

Rest your list looks ok.
 

The Hillside

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Hobbs (England)
Gavaskar (India)
Bradman (Australia)
Richards (West Indies)
Kallis (South Africa)
Flower (Zimbabwe)
Shakib (Bangladesh)
Hadlee (New Zealand)
Rashid (Afghanistan)
Waqar (Pakistan)
Murali (Sri Lanka)
Finally Waqar Younis makes an entry in this thread. I would like to see when Shoaib Akhtar makes an entry due to the impact factor alone.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Jack Hobbs
3. Donald Bradman
4. Viv Richards
5. Andy Flower
6. Kumar Sangakarra (+)
7. Shakib Al Hasan
8. Imran Khan
9. Richard Hadlee
10. Rashid Khan
11. Dale Steyn
 

reyrey

U19 Captain
Are people picking Rashid Khan and Murturgh because they are the best players from their respective countries?

Having them as specialist bowlers just weakens the team as you can easily find several allrounders from another country who are better bowlers.

An allrounder from the top 10 Test teams plus a specialist batsmen or keeper from Ireland or Afghanistan is a stronger combination than a specialist bowler from Ireland or Afghanistan plus a specialist batsmen/keeper allrounder from a top 10 Test team.

Also you can make up for any batting weakness of a specialist batsmen from Ireland or Afghanistan by having more allrounders in the team, but if you try do that for a specialist bowler with allrounders you just end up having a specialist who probably won't even bowl.
 
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kyear2

International Coach
I just think back and the one pace bowler of the 3 who struck fear in me thinking he'd destroy us was Waqar. I think he suffers from Botham syndrome in that he played too much as a crock and you forget just how brilliant he was as a youngster.
While I agree with what Coronis said, Waqar was the one that drive fear into me. I recall when he and Bishop were the fastest in the world and both had so much promise.
 

The Hillside

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Are people picking Rashid Khan and Murturgh because they are the best players from their respective countries?

Having them as specialist bowlers just weakens the team as you can easily find several allrounders from another country who are better bowlers.

An allrounder from the top 10 Test teams plus a specialist batsmen or keeper from Ireland or Afghanistan is a stronger combination than a specialist bowler from Ireland or Afghanistan plus a specialist batsmen/keeper allrounder from a top 10 Test team.

Also you can make up for any batting weakness of a specialist batsmen from Ireland or Afghanistan by having more allrounders in the team, but if you try do that for a specialist bowler with allrounders you just end up having a specialist who probably won't even bowl.
Agreed.

That's why I picked Asghar Afghan in my team.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Jack Hobbs (England)
Sunil Gavaskar (India)
Don Bradman (Australia)
Andy Flower (Zimbabwe) (wk)
Garry Sobers (West Indies)
Shakib Al Hasan (Bangladesh)
Imran Khan (Pakistan) (c)
Richard Hadlee (New Zealand)
Rashid Khan (Afghanistan)
Dale Steyn (South Africa)
Mutthiah Muralitharan (Sri Lanka)
Possibly a batsman short, and a spinner too many. Also I would bat Sobers at 4, I believe his best position.
 

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