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***Official***Semi-Final #1- India vs New Zealand - November 15th - Wankhede, Mumbai (D/N)
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The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
3.5 is quite generous, considering he was also quite sloppy behind the stumps, blowing quite a few chances there too.Stuff
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Tom Latham: 155 runs at 25.83 (SR 91.17); Nine catches
The biggest underperformer in the squad, Latham scored just 155 runs, 121 of which came in two innings, against Afghanistan (68) and the Netherlands (53). The first of those was crucial, coming after the Black Caps lost three wickets while adding one run against a team that turned out to be a semifinal contender. Otherwise, he provided little. 3.5
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
This kinda makes me think that even though Indian bowling was not at its best, it was still quite good. Much better than NZ's for sure.
This sums it up perfectly for me. Some want to make it seem like making a mountain out of a mole hill...it's not a mountain. Even if they'd lost, it'd be one reason not the main one. Kohli is a superstar. Best ever. But his ego is rampant and he, in a very slight way, disadvantaged his team by slowing down for a milestone. And whilst Santner bowled ok, he also faced Ferguson who was bowling shite. Then the very next ball after 100, he wipes across the line for 2 then 4 which he hadn't done for five overs.
It just doesn't feel ideal in a team game. That's all. No major issue. Indian fans are allowed to point things out like this without any disrespect to him.
Mitchell 9 for me, when you score 2x tons v the likely eventual winner at home, and no one else in the tournament scores a single one against them, that is meritorious.Stuff
Tom Latham: 155 runs at 25.83 (SR 91.17); Nine catches
I wouldn't have Conway at 6, either. 5 at best as he didn't fire a shot after the first game
Skyliner
International 12th Man
Kohli carries a lot of pressure on his shoulders to achieve the feats required of a demigod. The first cricketing demigod was Tendulkar, and Kohli is the newest one. (Dohni also has demigod status in many ways). Indian crowds want to see Kohli score centuries. India wants to see Kohli score centuries. So he nails the chances to do so. Kohli scoring centuries is as much a team requirement as India winning tournaments.
Moss
International Captain
Conway and Boult- All those T20s in the off season possibly dulled their edge a bit. They both actually looked in decent rhythm (Conway generally got starts before falling, and Boult apparently induced a very high number of false starts, more than Shami if CI is to be believed). Wonder if they were both going through the motions a bit, non-stop cricket can do that to you.
Moss
International Captain
Massive respect for KW for doing everything to overcome the ACL injury, making the world cup and batting well. Was let down badly by his senior bowlers, so not going to blame him too much for poor efforts in the field, but again he and the management paid the price you feel for putting too much faith in Southee and Ferguson coming into the tournament. Hope he can be back for one last shot in 2027.
Sunil1z
International Regular
I think if Neesham had played, SF would have been a lot closer. His knock against AUS in league stage was very good.
Moss
International Captain
Possible, but India’s death bowling in Mumbai >> Aus death bowling in Dhararmsala.
Also if Neesham would’ve bowled in Mumbai you can add 15-20 runs to India’s score IMO, ha ha.
Sunil1z
International Regular
Play him as a batsman. Chapman hardly bowled .
Moss
International Captain
I agree, but for whatever reason Neesham is that kid who “always gets overs” when he’s in the team, but Chapman and Mitchell do not.
There's just one demigod for cricket in India, the others are mere mortals
Any way Kohli did slow down but it didn't cost us, Iyer slowed down as well to a much lesser extent, so with the 50th ton behind him hopefully he plays at 110% this game - he was clearly playing to a plan though we need more from him in the finals!
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Yeah, this is a bit of a weird one.
On Neesham, India are great for a whole host of reasons and one of them is death bowling. He wouldn't have had the same amount of luxuries he had against Australia.
And also, for me, he paid for his 'I don't give a **** about bilaterals' approach with his spot in the team. He was lucky to be there, for a start (mightve been the one to miss out for Bracewell). Then he couldn't get ahead of Chapman. He could've claimed that spot by being more motivated for his country during that four year period, but Stead had very little loyalty or admiration for his game having shown him very little since the last World Cup. Chapman seemingly had more credit in the bank. When you think about it, should have been a no brainer. Neesham more experienced, can bowl, big last World Cup...but he exuded a lack of care in playing for NZ.
And also, for me, he paid for his 'I don't give a **** about bilaterals' approach with his spot in the team. He was lucky to be there, for a start (mightve been the one to miss out for Bracewell). Then he couldn't get ahead of Chapman. He could've claimed that spot by being more motivated for his country during that four year period, but Stead had very little loyalty or admiration for his game having shown him very little since the last World Cup. Chapman seemingly had more credit in the bank. When you think about it, should have been a no brainer. Neesham more experienced, can bowl, big last World Cup...but he exuded a lack of care in playing for NZ.
Arachnodouche
International Captain
This is an insightful post and it speaks to the difference between East and West to a great degree also. All Team First platitudes aside, ppl in our part of the world value individual achievements far more than in the West because the pyramidal structure of society here has never truly gone away despite eighty years of democracy and more recent globalization; we've simply had various proxies take over the positions vacated by the royalty of old. As opposed to the West where every **** is an individual™ first and foremost, we still look to the masthead for direction and inspiration. India values a Tendulkar and a Kohli century - or indeed Modi flaunting his sherwani at the UN - almost as much as a win for the side; you can scoff at it all you want but if it makes people by and large happy and if it mitigates the bitterness of defeat to a simple "**** it, at least Cheeku got his 50th" sort of ambivalence, then technically Kohli far from being selfish is actually "playing for the country".