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***Official*** The Hundred 2023 Thread

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I’d say they’re half an hour shorter. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but probably helps BBC accommodate it (which is of course a whole other discussion)
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I should have said as long. I repeating what others have said as i've not watched much.
They really don't take as long, strict fielding rules prevent this.

I’d say they’re half an hour shorter. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but probably helps BBC accommodate it (which is of course a whole other discussion)
I remain convinced that this format was created to accommodate the BBC. They're giving us 2 matches a week out of the 9 being played. Whilst this doesn't seem a lot, I'm becoming more and more aware of people who don't usually watch cricket (and don't have Sky) who are buying into it simply because it's available on FTA.

It's a shame that the Blast couldn't have been worked around the Summer Holidays better, but I believe The Hundred (as much as I dislike it) is doing the job it was designed to do. I think we need to get used to it, don't think it's going away any time soon.
 

mackembhoy

International Regular
They really don't take as long, strict fielding rules prevent this.



I remain convinced that this format was created to accommodate the BBC. They're giving us 2 matches a week out of the 9 being played. Whilst this doesn't seem a lot, I'm becoming more and more aware of people who don't usually watch cricket (and don't have Sky) who are buying into it simply because it's available on FTA.

It's a shame that the Blast couldn't have been worked around the Summer Holidays better, but I believe The Hundred (as much as I dislike it) is doing the job it was designed to do. I think we need to get used to it, don't think it's going away any time soon.
Fair enough on the first point. I shouldn't repeat information verbatim when I don't know if it is correct.

RE the second part the bit in bold is the key point. FTA is the key to this whole thing, yet you've got people defending the format for other reasons.

I had an discussion/argument with Bumble via DM on twitter once about the FTA/Sky thing back in 2019 before the Hundred had begun. He was looking forward to the Hundred.

He was very much under the view that without Sky cricket would have gone in the bin sooner than now. That participation is down to various other factors instead of the loss of FTA coverage. Now he's right Sky's investment has definitely been good in parts for the game but I still would argue participation has definitely been more decimated down to the lack of FTA.

The champions league final of Liverpool vs Spurs the other year was the most watched paid for sports event in UK history. Yet pales in comparison to what a game on ITV used to pull in when it had the rights, even when non English teams were involved.

The BBC highlights package gets more viewers than Sky do for their test series. Whether that be Ashes or another series.

I don't buy it that the BBC couldn't have got T20/Blast cricket on TV. They are showing England vs New Zealand on Friday on BBC Two.

So maybe the view of the BBC forcing the ECB to create the Hundred isn't inaccurate, as used it a tester to then get more expensive coverage i.e internationals.
 

Yeoman

U19 Captain
Cricket in England would have survived without Sky funding, as it did before 1990 and 2006. There would however have been less money for international and county players (and coaches and administrators). As such it would have been more vulnerable to the challenge of franchises. It wouldn’t though be as vulnerable as NZ, WI and SA are at present due to the higher popularity of test and domestic cricket than in those countries.
 

Yeoman

U19 Captain
Rather out of the blue. A big name of course but lacking experience, just returning from serious injury and not necessarily someone you would think of as a natural for the role.

Dare one say that this is a symptom of the hundred beingmore about image and celebrity than underlying substance?
 

FBU

International Debutant
No experience as a coach but having been captain of 11 Tests (won 2) and 14 ODIs (won 4) must be the nearest thing to experience. Think also he will become the next Lancs coach.
 

Third_Man

First Class Debutant
No experience as a coach but having been captain of 11 Tests (won 2) and 14 ODIs (won 4) must be the nearest thing to experience. Think also he will become the next Lancs coach.
If he does, I suspect it might not take long before Members and Supporters are longing for the return of the Glen Chapple days.

Just a thought are there not rules for franchises and counties needing to have qualified coaches? Or has he done his level 4 etc.
 

FBU

International Debutant
If he does, I suspect it might not take long before Members and Supporters are longing for the return of the Glen Chapple days. :laugh:

Just a thought are there not rules for franchises and counties needing to have qualified coaches? Or has he done his level 4 etc.
I don't know if you need a level 4 to be a coach. Looked it up and there are ECB Advanced Coach and ECB Specialist Coach qualifications.
He could also become a selector with no qualifications, just need strong communication skills.
 

Third_Man

First Class Debutant
I don't know if you need a level 4 to be a coach. Looked it up and there are ECB Advanced Coach and ECB Specialist Coach qualifications.
He could also become a selector with no qualifications, just need strong communication skills.
Doesn't it also depend on the message you are trying to communicate?
 

Yeoman

U19 Captain
Telegraph now reporting that the preferred option emerging is for the exisiting teams to be sold off, at least in part, to outside investors and for two new teams to be added in coming years.

This is perhaps not a surprise but disappointing all the same as it means that we will never be rid of the competition. Outside investors would have to be compensated if the competition ceased.
 

Third_Man

First Class Debutant
Just quickly read the Mail's version. No paywall.
Private investment from 2025, 51% to hosting counties.
New teams from 2028
Possibility T20 format from 2028
Possible two divisions for other 8 counties.

Would be the end of ths blast or one day cup. Or both?

Where do the players come from? Unless there is no other cricket going on at the same time.

 

Yeoman

U19 Captain
In terms of other cricket, if the hundred stays in its 3-4 week window as the mail article suggests, presumably the 50 over cup would continue on the undercard at the same time. Cant see the non-hundred goat counties giving up on the blast and at least some of them would have to vote for this proposal for it to hm through.
 

Third_Man

First Class Debutant
In terms of other cricket, if the hundred stays in its 3-4 week window as the mail article suggests, presumably the 50 over cup would continue on the undercard at the same time. Cant see the non-hundred goat counties giving up on the blast and at least some of them would have to vote for this proposal for it to hm through.
Even 2 more counties, let alone when / if the second divsion, would mean 24 more domestic players unavailable for the one day cup. Taking away 120 players of the best (a third of all players if there are 18 counties with 20 contracted players). A second division and a further 96 players become unavailable. That's curtains for the one day cup. Or do they try and retain the 50 over format by moving it forward and reformatting the Hundred into a T20 competition when all counties involved in it in 2028? Would they need the blast when all involved?
 

Yeoman

U19 Captain
If it ever came to pass that there was an 18-franchise hundred competition then I imagine that we would see the end of the Blast and possibly the 50 over competition taking the blast’s spot in the calendar. However it appears from various reports that that option is unlikely to be the one taken.
 

Groundking

International Debutant
Telegraph now reporting that the preferred option emerging is for the exisiting teams to be sold off, at least in part, to outside investors and for two new teams to be added in coming years.

This is perhaps not a surprise but disappointing all the same as it means that we will never be rid of the competition. Outside investors would have to be compensated if the competition ceased.
If it keeps losing money they'll pull the plug eventually. It's why nobody should watch the ****.
 

howitzer

State Captain
Even 2 more counties, let alone when / if the second divsion, would mean 24 more domestic players unavailable for the one day cup. Taking away 120 players of the best (a third of all players if there are 18 counties with 20 contracted players). A second division and a further 96 players become unavailable. That's curtains for the one day cup. Or do they try and retain the 50 over format by moving it forward and reformatting the Hundred into a T20 competition when all counties involved in it in 2028? Would they need the blast when all involved?
That would basically just be a rebranded blast? Or just the blast?
 

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