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Curtly Ambrose vs Wasim Akram

Who was the better test bowler?


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Saket1209

State Vice-Captain
Wasim is the most overrated bowler. If the conditions in Pakistan were less helpful to his bowling, he'd have been better in SA, England, NZ etc.
He was great in ODIs but in tests he struggled in SA,ENG and was Average in Ind, Wi,Aus by ATG standards. He was just a home track bully and improved his stats by performing well against poor Nz side of 90s. Just because of his peer rating he is considered an ATG but the stats speak for itself and for me he is in the same category as Walsh.
 

PlayerComparisons

International Vice-Captain
He was great in ODIs but in tests he struggled in SA,ENG and was Average in Ind, Wi,Aus by ATG standards. He was just a home track bully and improved his stats by performing well against poor Nz side of 90s. Just because of his peer rating he is considered an ATG but the stats speak for itself and for me he is in the same category as Walsh.
Waqar is probably a better example of someone with misleading stats(he was the Rabada of his era). Akram is a top tier ATG and in the top 10 quicks to play the game
 

Saket1209

State Vice-Captain
Waqar is probably a better example of someone with misleading stats(he was the Rabada of his era). Akram is a top tier ATG and in the top 10 quicks to play the game
No waqar had possibly the best peak achieved by any fast bowler(maybe Marshall). But post 94 waqar wasn't even in the ATVGs category. But one downside for wasim is that 32-34 % of his wickets are that of tailenders in contrast to ambrose who has something like Ambrose who has something like 26%.
 

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
He was great in ODIs but in tests he struggled in SA,ENG and was Average in Ind, Wi,Aus by ATG standards. He was just a home track bully and improved his stats by performing well against poor Nz side of 90s. Just because of his peer rating he is considered an ATG but the stats speak for itself and for me he is in the same category as Walsh.
No. Maybe against WI but not against Ind & Aus.
 

Saket1209

State Vice-Captain
No. Maybe against WI but not against Ind & Aus.
He was great in one series out of 3 he played in Aus. Not penetrative in one and struggled in 99 series. And if he was so good in reverse swing and was a beast on flat track then why he got 27 wickets in 8 games he played here with avg of 28 and sr of more than 60. Donald averaged 20 in India walsh ig 18.
 

OverratedSanity

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He was great in one series out of 3 he played in Aus. Not penetrative in one and struggled in 99 series. And if he was so good in reverse swing and was a beast on flat track then why he got 27 wickets in 8 games he played here with avg of 28 and sr of more than 60. Donald averaged 20 in India walsh ig 18.
Highly likely Walsh and Donald wouldn't have those numbers of they'd played the 1987 series in India where wasim averaged "only" 31 in a series that had 4 drawn tests.
 

Pap Finn Keighl

International Debutant
No waqar had possibly the best peak achieved by any fast bowler(maybe Marshall). But post 94 waqar wasn't even in the ATVGs category. But one downside for wasim is that 32-34 % of his wickets are that of tailenders in contrast to ambrose who has something like Ambrose who has something like 26%.
Ambrose WPM is very low for an ATG and without any particular reason.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
How isn't this close? Aren't top 10 guys supposed to be close?
Two players are close or not are not always reflected by such polls. Like 95% people can rate A and B very close, but 85% of them rates A higher. A poll between those two will not be close and won't reflect the perception of the voters. On the otherhand, 70% of people may rate A higher and only 10% think they are close. It won't be reflected in the poll, which will be closer.
 

sayon basak

International Captain
Two players are close or not are not always reflected by such polls. Like 95% people can rate A and B very close, but 85% of them rates A higher. A poll between those two will not be close and won't reflect the perception of the voters. On the otherhand, 70% of people may rate A higher and only 10% think they are close. It won't be reflected in the poll, which will be closer.
Doesn't take into account that if I feel player A and player B is fairly close and player B is getting humiliated, I'm gonna vote for player B.

(I just posted to bump up the thread. I know what you are trying to convey, which is pretty much general knowledge)
 

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