Shivnarine Chanderpaul vs Peter May

[PlayerComparisons]

Two very good batsmen

 

[Line and Length]

There's no comparison.

One batted down the order (220 of 280 innings) accumulating red ink (39 not outs) too boost his average. When batting at 3 or 4 where he was more likely to face the new ball he averaged just 34.2

On the other hand, May led from the front with 95 of his 106 knocks being at 3 or 4 producing an average of 49.7

On top of that, May was regarded as one of the more elegant batsmen to grace the game.

 

[Athlai]

Elegance is overrated. Shivs ugly crabby style was gun.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

There's no comparison.

One batted down the order (220 of 280 innings) accumulating red ink (39 not outs) too boost his average. When batting at 3 or 4 where he was more likely to face the new ball he averaged just 34.2

On the other hand, May led from the front with 95 of his 106 knocks being at 3 or 4 producing an average of 49.7

On top of that, May was regarded as one of the more elegant batsmen to grace the game.

It’s definitely a close comparison IMO

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Elegance is overrated. Shivs ugly crabby style was gun.

I think Chanderpaul's style was quite lovable.

Think May was a touch better bat though.

 

[karan_fromthestands]

Voted for Chanderpaul. Purely going by the quality of attacks that he faced. He may have batted at 5 for most of his career, but can't hold it against him in all contexts.

 

[Coronis]

Chanders had a lower SR but he also has a 69 ball hundred so I don’t know.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Chanders had a lower SR but he also has a 69 ball hundred so I don’t know.

He deserves a vote only for that.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Let's also not forget that Shiv made a 100 in that world record 418 4th innings win.

 

[kyear2]

Chanders had a lower SR but he also has a 69 ball hundred so I don’t know.

That just proves he could have, just didn't want to, was all about his average Even worse passed it in to his son.

 

[karan_fromthestands]

That just proves he could have, just didn't want to, was all about his average Even worse passed it in to his son.

So you are completely going to ignore the lollapses that WI had? He was doing damage control more often than not.

 

[kyear2]

So you are completely going to ignore the lollapses that WI had? He was doing damage control more often than not.

I saw his entire career, the only damage control he prioritized was that of his average. I've seen him take singles early in overs while batting with the tail, I've observed him refusing to bat higher up the order when we had no good alternatives. He just wasn't a team man. I've even seen him put himself in the slips when he knew he couldn't catch a cold.

 

[karan_fromthestands]

I saw his entire career, the only damage control he prioritized was that of his average. I've seen him take singles early in overs while batting with the tail, I've observed him refusing to bat higher up the order when we had no good alternatives. He just wasn't a team man. I've even seen him put himself in the slips when he knew he couldn't catch a cold.

Was that just him calling the shots or some of it was also what the team wanted? Pretty sure the batting up the order thing was suggested by a few people, but was he pushed to do it by the management? Also, really don't see anything wrong with him being more comfortable with a certain position. He was a key wicket in a struggling batting line-up at one point and he could maximise his scoring at number 5 while others would've been **** at any number.

 

[kyear2]

Was that just him calling the shots or some of it was also what the team wanted? Pretty sure the batting up the order thing was suggested by a few people, but was he pushed to do it by the management? Also, really don't see anything wrong with him being more comfortable with a certain position. He was a key wicket in a struggling batting line-up at one point and he could maximise his scoring at number 5 while others would've been **** at any number.

I'm pretty sure the board wanted him to bat higher up the order, he refused. Also when your team is **** and you refuse to move out of your comfort zone you're selfish. Come in earlier, bat with the youngsters, nurture or guide them.

 

[karan_fromthestands]

I'm pretty sure the board wanted him to bat higher up the order, he refused. Also when your team is **** and you refuse to move out of your comfort zone you're selfish. Come in earlier, bat with the youngsters, nurture or guide them.

Source?

Also, some of those batters were just not quality. What was the point of him shielding them?

 

[BazBall21]

I saw his entire career, the only damage control he prioritized was that of his average. I've seen him take singles early in overs while batting with the tail, I've observed him refusing to bat higher up the order when we had no good alternatives. He just wasn't a team man. I've even seen him put himself in the slips when he knew he couldn't catch a cold.

He was not a good fielder.

 

[Line and Length]

Source?

Also, some of those batters were just not quality. What was the point of him shielding them?

For a player that regularly took a single early in an over when batting with the tail, I would suggest "shielding" was a concept outside his thinking.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Poor Shiv.

West Indies denied him game time to surpass Lara's record...and now he's getting the full CW treatment now.

He refused to go up the order, so he made a kid who fulfilled this duty

 

[Coronis]

Fun fact: despite playing almost half the matches Lara did with either Ambrose or Walsh, Chanders still lost a lower percentage of matches than Lara.

 

[ataraxia]

Unironically shows how much more valuable a drawer is to a bad team than a winner.