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Is Jacques Kallis the Most BoRing Cricketer in the History of Cricket?
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karan_fromthestands
State Captain
Great pick. Vettori's batting was very difficult to watch. He could bat, but you know he couldn't play an impactful innings(more often than not) or bat in a way that was even remotely entertaining.
His bowling was always fun to watch if you could understand his subtle variations, but got too defensive after T20s.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
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His batting was extremely entertaining and he scored quickly.
Look at his highest scores:
140 (189)
137* (170)
134 (186)
127 (98)
118 (164)
110 (166)
99 (133)
96 (127)
94 (87)
90 (162)
...
He made 29 scores of 50 and above (6 100s & 23 50s) and only 3 were made at a strike rate below 50.
Agree about the bowling but back injuries were a major factor behind that.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
BJ Watling is perhaps my favourite cricketer of all time, but he would be a strong contender.
TheJediBrah
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I loved watching Vettori bat. Very entertaining.
ODIs are a different matter though
Because he did a good job and I can't remember ever seeing him play a slow innings that took the team from a strong position to a weaker one. "Boring" is subjective but that would be why he doesn't get as much scrutiny with regard to his scoring rate.
ODIs are a different matter though
OverratedSanity
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No, he definitely had innings that fell into the description you gave.
Personally think the SR criticism for both is nonsense but whatever.
TheJediBrah
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I think looking at as "SR criticism" is not a perfect description. It should be "scoring rate in the context of matches" criticism, that just happens to be generally reflected in their strike rates.
karan_fromthestands
State Captain
I was talking more from the POV of aesthetics. He isn't that great to watch IMO, this is subjective though.
But I agree, was wrong when it comes to talking about Vettori not playing a lot of "impactful innings", he does have a few solid knocks in tests, especially at home.
TheJediBrah
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I could be remembering wrong but I thought Vettori was a bit of a minnow-basher with his batting.
Recall him having big knocks against the likes of Zimbabwe
edit: had a look at statsguru think I'm wrong. He averaged about 30% more against Ban/Zim but that's pretty standard, and only 1 hundred against Zim which is the one I remember
Recall him having big knocks against the likes of Zimbabwe
edit: had a look at statsguru think I'm wrong. He averaged about 30% more against Ban/Zim but that's pretty standard, and only 1 hundred against Zim which is the one I remember
karan_fromthestands
State Captain
I only have memories of the last few years of his career. His bowling is something I'd always enjoy but batting always seemed a bit off to me. Also, you can barely find highlights of his knocks on YT(maybe no one cares about his batting
), there might be some full match highlights where his batting footage might be there.
Chin Music
State Vice-Captain
Re Vettori, I tend to agree that he was far duller in the last few years of his career with the ball. His back operation meant that he had to bowl more front on and lost a lot of drift and sharp, late dip, which is what got him lots of his wickets earlier career. Still mind bogglingly accurate, with a great control of length.I only have memories of the last few years of his career. His bowling is something I'd always enjoy but batting always seemed a bit off to me. Also, you can barely find highlights of his knocks on YT(maybe no one cares about his batting
Coronis
International Coach
B-but he had a 60 SR!
karan_fromthestands
State Captain
He is great to watch even when he doesn't score at a brisk pace. Looks even better in the stadium, would pay to watch him bat(even in a net session). Can get it if others don't like his style though.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
Well colour us all surprised.
kyear2
International Coach
Don't they both deserve scrutiny?
karan_fromthestands
State Captain
Dravid was so effective in tests. Wouldn't just question him without any proper reasoning..
Coronis
International Coach
Implying Kallis wasn’t…
Yes you’d think so.. but Kallis receives far more.
kyear2
International Coach
Than Dravid? No, I do rate Kallis higher than Dravid
karan_fromthestands
State Captain
I am just talking about Dravid in isolation. He was great to watch, far from boring even when he wasn't scoring.