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***Official***Match #20- England vs S Africa - October 21st - Wankhede (D/N)
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Son Of Coco
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It makes perfect sense.
TheJediBrah
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How do you do it though?
Daemon
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Except the guy who took 2 wickets opening the bowling and made 75, yes.
Maharaj also better than most no rounders in the tournament (Phillips aside)
Prince EWS
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Maharaj is a good bowler but he averages 14 with the bat.
Jansen can icing-bosh but I have no faith in him in a chase or a rescue act. Good player but would have been at 9 or 10 as part of a h4x lower order in great South African ODI sides, which was my point. They're not going for the "Test top order and then multiple explosive allrounders and keepers from 6 to 9" thing they traditionally have.
Prince EWS
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Also the fact that Maharaj can actually bowl and isn't a domestic batting allrounder is a big change. They even have Shamsi if they cop a bunsen.
Adorable Asshole
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Owzat
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I think the balance is a little tipped in Maharaj's favour, quicks not so effective as might in other conditions and he bowls and therefore is better reading spin
Owzat
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Pakistan
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Pakistan depends if they turn up on the day, not much changed there really, one extreme (really good) to the other (crap). Wouldn't underestimate Sri Lanka, better probably at bowling and playing spin, and of course don't have Butthead as captain
India, well that might be the fifth so we'll skip that, aussies are always a dangerous beast, Holland well they did for the saffers and England's bowling has been more than a tad ineffectual - 151 for the 6th wicket, problem is England celebrate early wickets, a cluster, but really haven't bowled anywhere near as well as the celebrations might suggest
Topley couldn't have got off the field any quicker, unless he caught the ball just right as it was being hit for six....
best thing England could do is say Butthead is ill next match, play as many spinners as they can and hope for the best - Dawson in for Topley if they decide he's unfit, probably why England have indicated Archer won't replace him, perhaps working out FINALLY how bad the loads-a-quicks selection policy is
Topley : 8 wkts @ 22.88 (ER 6.61)
Atkinson : 2 wkts @ 30.00 (ER 6.67)
Woakes : 2 wkts @ 67.50 (ER 7.50)
Wood : 3 wkts @ 70.00 (ER 6.77)
Curran : 2 wkts @ 70.00 (ER 8.08)
Willey : 0 wkts @ n/a (ER 6.78)
Topley : 8 wkts @ 22.88 (ER 6.61) - crocked?
Other quicks : 9 wkts @ 67.33 (ER 7.19) - crap
Spin : 7 wkts @ 45.57 (ER 5.65) - underused, Root dragging the average and ER up with 1 @ 67.00, both Rashid and Livingstone taking their wicket(s) in low to mid 30s and worst ER 5.19
Victor Ian
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1992 - Australia 4/8 5th missed finals
1999 - SriLanka 2/5 missed super6 stage
These would be current worst
Andy19
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England could end worse than these Teams already one loss away from Australia 1992.
Afghanistan
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Son Of Coco
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I don't think sager words have been spoken in this thread.Great day for cricket England Exposed for horrible team they are.
OMG England suck 1-3 worse title defence in history losing Afghanistan Embarrassing stuff
Poms are Embarrassing team Currently.