England thread

[GIMH]

Something else going on to be this bad?

Maybe just as simple as having forgotten how to play ODIs? For all the talk of they’ve peaked etc, a fair few of these guys won the T20 a year ago, not like they’re all over the hill. I dunno.

 

[Spark]

Wonder if there's any questions being directed at Mott? There were actually more problems with his tenure at the Aus women's team then is usually remembered now in terms of team cohesion under him; much of that being covered up by a core of ATG cricketers at his disposal. But it's noticeable that England have looked far more shaky in ODIs ever since he came in.

 

[Aidan11]

 

[Ali TT]

Maybe just as simple as having forgotten how to play ODIs? For all the talk of they’ve peaked etc, a fair few of these guys won the T20 a year ago, not like they’re all over the hill. I dunno.

I don't care hugely. ODI is a dead format to me and glad we won the WC while still relevant. Perhaps us sucking once more will accelerate it's demise

 

[wpdavid]

On paper, this shouldn't be our worst ever WC side for ODIs. But the thrashings handed out by NZ and SA, and the comfortable defeat against Afghanistan may well be amongs our worst performances. I know that the past comes with rose-tinted spectacles, but even in the bad old days I think we were more competitive than this.

 

[Ashes81]

It's been a complete debacle.

We've been a really top white ball team for a good while but that era has ended.

The bowling is the main issue. Woakes, Curran and Wood simply haven't produced and sides have found it too easy to bat against our attack.

We're still a good batting line up, although obviously we've not shown that and it's time for a clear out in ODIs.

 

[Pothas]

Won't it just be all T20 after this tournament anyway? Can't imagine there are many ODIs in the next year.

 

[WICFan]

Won't it just be all T20 after this tournament anyway? Can't imagine there are many ODIs in the next year.

3 ODI's against the West Indies and then that's it until Australia your around August/September.

Don't know ow if they've came in undercooked or ill-prepared, but it's the end of an era.

 

[Pothas]

None of test match players will be in that side either.

 

[loterry1994]

England had a good run no doubt two icc trophies they need to rebuild again now they do have a lot of talent waiting in the back. Guys like Ali, Rashid, Stokes, Wood, Malan etc probably won’t be in the team after this tournament

 

[WICFan]

None of test match players will be in that side either.

Maybe an opportunity for the likes of Crawley, Duckett and Ahmed.

 

[mackembhoy]

Jos can start walking home.

 

[mackembhoy]

The bowling is the main issue.

We already knew the bowling would be an issue.

But Jos captaincy is the main issue. He's admitted as much in his interviews.

 

[Chin Music]

We already knew the bowling would be an issue.

But Jos captaincy is the main issue. He's admitted as much in his interviews.

I would have thought it change of leadership would be a given and might extend to the coach as well.

 

[Howsie]

It’s ya bowling, it stinks.

 

[Chin Music]

It’s ya bowling, it stinks.

There’s no doubt about that but the planning and thinking that has got us to this point stinks too.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

It’s ya bowling, it stinks.

It has. But our batting has just as much.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

England since 1992:

96 - thrashed in the quarters
99 - missed the super 6s
03 - missed the super 6s
07 - made the super 8s, but missed the semis
11 - thrashed in the quarters
15 - missed the quarters
19 - finalists
23 - normal service has resumed

 

[Fuller Pilch]

On paper, this shouldn't be our worst ever WC side for ODIs.

On paper England looked the 2nd strongest team behind India pre-tournament (on the proviso bowlers were used well to hide some limitations).

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

19 - finalists

I'll admit, I chuckled.