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James Anderson vs Ryan Harris

Who is the better test bowler? (Ignore Longevity)


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Adorable Asshole

International Regular
Yeah totally agree.

On balance MJ was a good but not great bowler. But that's such a weird way to describe his career.

During his career he was the worst properly fast bowler in the history of Test cricket, the best bowler I've ever seen, and everything in between.

Might be a good post for the "players you find hard to rate accurately" thread.
All I know about Mitchell Johnson bowling is

He bowls to the left, he bowls to the right
That Mitchell Johnson bowling is shite
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
All I know about Mitchell Johnson bowling is

He bowls to the left, he bowls to the right
That Mitchell Johnson bowling is ****e
Well you should probably try watching some cricket if thats all you know about him.

I mean yeah, that is definitely a chapter in his story, and as an Eng fan I loved it......but fmd you can't take away from the bloke that he paid that back with interest and then some.
 

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
Well you should probably try watching some cricket if thats all you know about him.

I mean yeah, that is definitely a chapter in his story, and as an Eng fan I loved it......but fmd you can't take away from the bloke that he paid that back with interest and then some.
The only thing i know about him is Kohli destroying him in 2014.

His only claim to fame is destroying a mentally weak English batting lineup.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
The thing about Johnson is, it’s not like he was a shite bowler who became good, or a good one who became bad.

He burst onto the scene in South Africa and came to England with a huge reputation, but left with one as their Harmison. In amongst that he had a good game at Headingley. The next Ashes over there exaggerated both of the above. Some of the most terrible, wayward bowling you could ever see in four out of five Tests and a phenomenal display at Perth. And then of course there was the comeback.

2015 Ashes is the only time I can remember him just being okay.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
The only thing i know about him is Kohli destroying him in 2014.

His only claim to fame is destroying a mentally weak English batting lineup.
What an absolute piece of junk this post is.

First of all, if mentally weak is a reference to Trott going home from that tour then you are a disgrace.

Secondly. Let’s give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s not. That batting line up arrived having had tremendous success over a few years, aside from the rotating opener position there weren’t any real question marks about any of them going into the series. And we’d just beaten Australia three zip.

The batting imploded because he was brilliant. Johnson single-handedly ended that era of English cricket. He inflicted the mental scars. They didn’t show up ‘mentally weak’ enabling him to take advantage. Worst kind of revisionist nonsense to suggest otherwise.

I didn’t see a lot of the Ind/Aus series in 14/15 but I do remember the backdrop against which it was played and there were very obvious and understandable (if you’re not a ****) reasons why he’d have lost some venom at that moment…
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
**** me, started my day defending Mitchell Johnson. Next I’m off to praise the wonderful job the owners are doing at Wrexham.
 

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
What an absolute piece of junk this post is.

First of all, if mentally weak is a reference to Trott going home from that tour then you are a disgrace.

Secondly. Let’s give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it’s not. That batting line up arrived having had tremendous success over a few years, aside from the rotating opener position there weren’t any real question marks about any of them going into the series. And we’d just beaten Australia three zip.

The batting imploded because he was brilliant. Johnson single-handedly ended that era of English cricket. He inflicted the mental scars. They didn’t show up ‘mentally weak’ enabling him to take advantage. Worst kind of revisionist nonsense to suggest otherwise.

I didn’t see a lot of the Ind/Aus series in 14/15 but I do remember the backdrop against which it was played and there were very obvious and understandable (if you’re not a ****) reasons why he’d have lost some venom at that moment…
Oh sorry. I forgot about that. I didn't meant that. I meant mentally weak to show English batsmen get scared of Johnson pace and gave up when ompared to Kohli's tenacity and resilience.
 

trundler

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Well you should probably try watching some cricket if thats all you know about him.

I mean yeah, that is definitely a chapter in his story, and as an Eng fan I loved it......but fmd you can't take away from the bloke that he paid that back with interest and then some.
It's on brand for the fella to not know much tbf
 

Burgey

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Why you chirping now mate, not taking wickets?
Tbf that could besaid to Anderson in virtually every Ashes test he played. What a woeful record for a bloke held upon the Pasty Isles as their greatest ever bowler. Wouldn't give you two bob for him. He'd have barely got out of State 2nd XI here, and rightly so. Abject.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
The only thing i know about him is Kohli destroying him in 2014.

His only claim to fame is destroying a mentally weak English batting lineup.
Can't really say better than what GIMH just said except to add you've started 2 posts "the only thing I know about Mitchell Johnson is..."

Oh and you really are quite dire and your take here is more shite than MJ's worst days spraying it.
 

Burgey

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Second word, extraneous apostrophe.
Much like your posts.

And your face.

It was actually a weird part of the program we used to use to upload articles. If you typed something using word then copied and pasted it across, it would insert random punctuation marks. Occasionally an apostrophe or a question mark. Was infuriating.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Tbf that could besaid to Anderson in virtually every Ashes test he played. What a woeful record for a bloke held upon the Pasty Isles as their greatest ever bowler. Wouldn't give you two bob for him. He'd have barely got out of State 2nd XI here, and rightly so. Abject.
Low even by your standards....here's me and GIMH sticking up for Mitchell ****ing Johnson ffs and you wade in with that dollop of horse shite.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
It was actually a weird part of the program we used to use to upload articles. If you typed something using word then copied and pasted it across, it would insert random punctuation marks. Occasionally an apostrophe or a question mark. Was infuriating.
It's quite remarkable that that bug appeared just twice in the first three paragraphs, but both times following the exact same word. It's your mistake, mate
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Tbf that could besaid to Anderson in virtually every Ashes test he played. What a woeful record for a bloke held upon the Pasty Isles as their greatest ever bowler. Wouldn't give you two bob for him. He'd have barely got out of State 2nd XI here, and rightly so. Abject.
Said in the midst of an Ashes series away from home where he bowled his team to victory. Twenty20 cricket didn’t exist last time an Australian bowler did that
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
It's quite remarkable that that bug appeared just twice in the first three paragraphs, but both times following the exact same word. It's your mistake, mate
Nope, loathe as I am to stick up for Burgey, he’s right.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Tremlett and Bresnan were more impressive in 2010-11 anyway. Even Finn had his moments in the couple of tests he played towards the start of that series
 

ataraxia

International Coach
Nope, loathe as I am to stick up for Burgey, he’s right.
No he isn't. The bug certainly existed, but this was not an example of this. He committed the error around that time several times in posts:
Got to be a dream for Pollard, to face an attack containing Mick Lewis and Saj Mahmood. Be like Christmas two weeks' late.
Sir Ralph Richardson!!!

Jeez the pulled out the big guns.

Great stuff.

Edit: the boloke inspecting the pitch is wearing a Fedora just like the one I left on the plane in Manchester two weeks' ago :(
Did get it right later in the article tbf, twice.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Tremlett and Bresnan were more impressive in 2010-11 anyway. Even Finn had his moments in the couple of tests he played towards the start of that series
Nah they weren’t. And only played 3 and 2 respectively. And Finn took plenty of poles and got plenty of tap. He didn’t ‘have his moments’

Anderson was the best bowler by a mile in that series and after Cook the main reason why we won.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Nah they weren’t. And only played 3 and 2 respectively. And Finn took plenty of poles and got plenty of tap. He didn’t ‘have his moments’

Anderson was the best bowler by a mile in that series and after Cook the main reason why we won.
It was definitely the best series he ever had in Australia, I will concede that.

But "best bowler by a mile" is a massive exaggeration, just like every single other comment I have ever seen you or 95% of other English fans make about him

EDIT: probably came across a little personal there, unfair of me. It's more of a widespread English delusion
 
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Flem274*

123/5
Yeah totally agree.

On balance MJ was a good but not great bowler. But that's such a weird way to describe his career.

During his career he was the worst properly fast bowler in the history of Test cricket, the best bowler I've ever seen, and everything in between.

Might be a good post for the "players you find hard to rate accurately" thread.
Yeah he's #1 for me too on being hard to rate.

Maybe he evens out as the bowler he started as - pretty effective but people were complaining that batsmen were nicking half volleys.
 

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