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*Official* Match #10 — Australia Vs South Africa Oct 12th, Lucknow

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loterry1994

International Debutant
Spark said:
The former certainly isn't great but Cummins isn't exactly known as a particularly good white ball bowler. It was a big mistake to give him the ODI captaincy.
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Maxwell has always been useful enough with the ball to give you like 5 overs at a good rate if he does better he’ll bowl his 10. Cummins use to be way better in odis and the shorter formats a few years ago. I reckon ever since he went for big money in the ipl think it was like 2020 his form dipped in the shorter formats and more players figured him out. Cummins should of definitely used up Stoinis and Marsh more today to see if they could of made up for his poor bowling
 
King Kane

King Kane

International Debutant
Spark said:
The former certainly isn't great but Cummins isn't exactly known as a particularly good white ball bowler. It was a big mistake to give him the ODI captaincy.
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Yeah the captaincy isn't helping Cummins but who else do the Aussies have to captain with Smith and Warner blacklisted due to sandpapergate, Head injured and Carey dropped?

I guess Mitch Marsh or Maxwell could captain but they aren't exactly locks in the Aussie team either.
 
Spark

Spark

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loterry1994 said:
Maxwell has always been useful enough with the ball to give you like 5 overs at a good rate if he does better he’ll bowl his 10. Cummins use to be way better in odis and the shorter formats a few years ago. I reckon ever since he went for big money in the ipl think it was like 2020 his form dipped in the shorter formats and more players figured him out
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Smith's captaincy ban expired ages ago so he could easily have done it, it's not like ODI captaincy has the same emotional baggage as Test captaincy does.
 
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Socerer 01

International Captain
King Kane said:
Yeah the captaincy isn't helping Cummins but who else do the Aussies have to captain with Smith and Warner blacklisted due to sandpapergate, Head injured and Carey dropped?

I guess Mitch Marsh or Maxwell could captain but they aren't exactly locks in the Aussie team either.
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Maxwell is a lock for a world cup in India tbh
 
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loterry1994

International Debutant
King Kane said:
Yeah the captaincy isn't helping Cummins but who else do the Aussies have to captain with Smith and Warner blacklisted due to sandpapergate, Head injured and Carey dropped?

I guess Mitch Marsh or Maxwell could captain but they aren't exactly locks in the Aussie team either.
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I think it should be Marsh captain. Even Head might be a good shout after this tournament both of them are going to be main stays in the shorter formats for a while it seems. I couldn’t take Smith captaining again seriously he looks like an absolute tosser half the time
 
Spark

Spark

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trundler said:
Is captaincy a problem or is that another consequence of too many no rounders?
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The no-rounders thing isn't the main issue - though it is a big problem - it's more than having Cummins as captain really leads to this three frontline quicks balance which is just obviously broken in these conditions.
loterry1994 said:
Aus main spinner struggling is the bigger issue. People can talk about Agar being average and all but he was a big loss to this team and was a main stay in the shorter formats the last few years it definitely hurts their balance
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Yeah Agar is a big miss here. Would have been worth his place easily.
 
Son Of Coco

Son Of Coco

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Australia must be wondering if they can just set up a couple of bowling machines at each end and put their feet up until the batting starts.
 
trundler

trundler

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Spark said:
The no-rounders thing isn't the main issue - though it is a big problem - it's more than having Cummins as captain really leads to this three frontline quicks balance which is just obviously broken in these conditions.

Yeah Agar is a big miss here. Would have been worth his place easily.
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Yeah that's a good point. Cummins is just suboptimal for balance in the conditions as a player. Plus it doesn't help that his strengths and weaknesses just make him Haze but worse i.e not the death bowler Australia needs the third pacer to be.
 
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loterry1994 said:
Aus main spinner struggling is the bigger issue. People can talk about Agar being average and all but he was a big loss to this team and was a main stay in the shorter formats the last few years it definitely hurts their balance
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Australia’s main spinner hasn’t played white ball for the country for 4 years

Lyon, Murphy, Kuhnemann and even Chris Green are all better than Agar

Ashton Turner is a much more useful cricketer these days as is Short

The guy has basically been deemed not good enough to play on his last 2 tours
 
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