Ashwin vs Kohli

[Xix2565]

You are taking this bowler bias to extreme lengths. Kohli by 2019 was steering clear of Dravid and heading to Gavaskar territory.

Only Indian batter I would put above everyone else is Tendulkar. Gavaskar isn't clear of people like Ashwin/Jadeja at all and it's a shame that people refuse to accept that bowlers are more valuable in general, let alone the quality of the bowlers.

 

[Xix2565]

Why not Anderson if we have no problem rating home bullies?

Even with his home bullying he has a lesser impact.

 

[OverratedSanity]

You are taking this bowler bias to extreme lengths. Kohli by 2019 was steering clear of Dravid and heading to Gavaskar territory.

This may have been the case for you. It was not a universal opinion. Some Randoms 5 years projecting what his trajectory could have been is a worthless metric.

 

[subshakerz]

This may have been the case for you. It was not a universal opinion. Some Randoms 5 years projecting what his trajectory could have been is a worthless metric.

This was common cricket understanding, especially once Kohli had the 2018 England tour and banished his demons. Seemed destined to be an ATG.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

This may have been the case for you. It was not a universal opinion. Some Randoms 5 years projecting what his trajectory could have been is a worthless metric.

It’s not random 5 years. He’d been doing well since 2012.

 

[Coronis]

This was common cricket understanding, especially once Kohli had the 2018 England tour and banished his demons. Seemed destined to be an ATG.

Coulda woulda shoulda. Who cares?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Kohli will probably still end up better than dravid. Dravid was poor against quality pace and quality spin

 

[subshakerz]

Coulda woulda shoulda. Who cares?

Point is he reached a level that Ashwin has not.

 

[subshakerz]

Kohli will probably still end up better than dravid. Dravid was poor against quality pace and quality spin

My sense also. Just needs a few more solid series and getting that average north of 50.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

My sense also. Just needs a few more solid series and getting that average north of 50.

I’m kinda low key hoping, he has a big enough series in Eng and NZ to push his average there above 40, and one good series vs Cummins and Co in Aus. Could be rated on par with Gavaskar then.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Dravid probably wouldn’t average 50+ in this era

 

[subshakerz]

I’m kinda low key hoping, he has a big enough series in Eng and NZ to push his average there above 40, and one good series vs Cummins and Co in Aus. Could be rated on par with Gavaskar then.

I don't think so. He will end up in the top 20 bats though of all time.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

What does Kohli have to average on his last tour of England to average 40+ in England?

 

[anil1405]

Dravid probably wouldn’t average 50+ in this era

He'd still hang around at one end to let batters at other end play with more freedom with them knowing that there is Dravid batting at one end.

That's what he bought to the team. A sense of calmness and confidence that was clearly lacking in tough conditions prior to his debut. And something India is missing, to an extent, after his retirement.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

He'd still hang around at one end to let batters at other end play with more freedom with them knowing that there is Dravid batting at one end.

That's what he bought to the team. A sense of calmness and confidence that was clearly lacking in tough conditions prior to his debut. And something India is missing, to an extent, after his retirement.

yeah with Dravid they might have won a series in england

 

[OverratedSanity]

Dravid probably wouldn’t average 50+ in this era

He averaged 50 in the 4 years he played in the ****ing 90s as a youngster but he wouldn't average 50 today lmao. Gtfo.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

I don't think so. He will end up in the top 20 bats though of all time.

I have a gut feel, but I agree it’s improbable.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

He averaged 50 in the 4 years he played in the ****ing 90s as a youngster but he wouldn't average 50 today lmao. Gtfo.

Dravid doesn’t even average 50 if you take out bangaldesh and zimbabwe tho. India barely play against those two teams now. Kohli is a better player of quality bowling and isn’t averaging 50 at the moment

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Kohli could have easily averaged 50+ if he was a minnow basher like some other "greats". But he is a player of the likes of Hobbs, Richards and Miller who likes to perform when it's the hardest.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Kohli could have easily averaged 50+ if he was a minnow basher like some other "greats". But he is a player of the likes of Hobbs, Richards and Miller who likes to perform when it's the hardest.

Kholi is a genius like Richards and Lara and Sobers