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**Official** English Football Season 2023/24

BoyBrumby

Englishman
A replay will never happen, but I don't think it would necessarily be unfair if it did.
There is a precedent, but it was offered by the opposition rather than mandated: when Arsene offered t'Blades a Mulligan after (if memory serves) Kanu didn't give them the ball back when it was put out after a Blade injury and (again, IIRC) Overmars scored from the resulting play.

Think Steve Bruce tried to call his players off the pitch for a little sook and cry too, so was pretty decent of Wenger, even if I am biased AF.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Well it does, because it shows he wants some VAR decisions but not all of them......you know, just the ones which favour his team....sporting integrity my arse.
I haven't listened to what he said but the complaints seem to be about the offside. There is no way that goal shouldn't be given where VAR is present, and the audio makes it clear how farcical it was. Saying 'well it wouldn't have been a goal without VAR' is irrelevant firstly because VAR is there and secondly because without VAR the match is different anyway as they have eleven men.

I mean let's not lose sight of the fact that it was very, very funny. But the complaints about the goal are legitimate, and nothing else Klopp says changes that.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
There is a precedent, but it was offered by the opposition rather than mandated: when Arsene offered t'Blades a Mulligan after (if memory serves) Kanu didn't give them the ball back when it was put out after a Blade injury and (again, IIRC) Overmars scored from the resulting play.

Think Steve Bruce tried to call his players off the pitch for a little sook and cry too, so was pretty decent of Wenger, even if I am biased AF.
Yeah that's the only time I can remember it happening as well tbh.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I haven't listened to what he said but the complaints seem to be about the offside. There is no way that goal shouldn't be given where VAR is present, and the audio makes it clear how farcical it was. Saying 'well it wouldn't have been a goal without VAR' is irrelevant firstly because VAR is there and secondly because without VAR the match is different anyway as they have eleven men.

I mean let's not lose sight of the fact that it was very, very funny. But the complaints about the goal are legitimate, and nothing else Klopp says changes that.
Yeah this is the thing. Klopp obviously has a vested interest here. But he's not wrong to suggest that things like this (i.e., officials deliberately upholding decisions they know to be horribly incorrect) cast aspersions over the integrity of the sport.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I mean let's not lose sight of the fact that it was very, very funny. But the complaints about the goal are legitimate, and nothing else Klopp says changes that.
Totally agree - I just wish he'd accept it like others do. Have a proper moan at the time, that's fair enough, but asking for a replay 4 days later is pathetic.
 

andruid

Cricketer Of The Year
Then of course Antony, surely their was an alternative winger they could have signed for less money? Ten Hag should not have such a key role in transfers IMO.
I remember bragging about Leeds bagging Sinisterra (with roughly twice as many Eredivisie goal involvements) for a third of the price. He has lost a lot of time out injured since then but still.
 

Socerer 01

International Captain
what a **** show from Enrique

unless Mbappe was injured this was also pathetic display from him even Lukaku would have done better
 

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
they’ve never had a solid transfer strategy since arguably David Gill left
The owners put in place a purposeful strategy after Alex to sign “names” to sell shirts and other marketing reasons. Multiple managers did not get the players they wanted and got more established “value proven” players. Or cheaper options. It was an attempt to have Galaticos strategy on the cheap. I’d call it a complete fail but they made a ton of money even if the club won nothing.

At a macro scale it’s the Cubs approach. The fans turn up and spend so you don’t have to win. They tweaked it to be top 4 but that hasn’t been a guarantee. I know some fans don’t get it because it’s antithetical to being a fan but they don’t give a ****. This was a leveraged buy out of an undervalued brand to them. That’s all.

Moyes, LVG, Jose, Ole and ETH. Changing the manager hasn’t worked. The players haven’t all been there the whole time so it’s not them. Clubs going nowhere but in circles with a new manager every few years until they leave. Maybe you get lucky and snag a cup or 2nd in a down year but that’s it.
 

Tom Flint

International Regular
What about that goal at Watford in the championship which hit the net and bounced out but the ref thought it hit the advertising board and play carried on!
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I heard Gerrard is going to come out of retirement tonight, slip and score an offside own goal that deflects off a beach ball, and have VAR allow it because the operator fat-fingers the wrong button.
Not forgetting how he'll also manage to get sent off within moments of coming onto the pitch, and then embarrass himself afterwards by passionately defending a teammate biting someone.
 

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