****OFFICIAL**** Lara vs Tendulkar Debate Thread

[subshakerz]

Funny enough, all the constant reminders about Lara's strong points are making me consider if I would actually rank him above Tendulkar. I have Tendulkar ahead of Lara mainly because of longevity. But I rate Viv so highly because outside of spreadsheets, he was a real life match winner. Could turn the match around in the space of a few overs. Could decimate the opposition. Lara was similar. He could take the match away from you very quickly. Something not present in Tendulkar, who was far more methodical in his approach. I do value these traits very highly. So maybe I might just reconsider having flashes of brilliance and then fizzling out rather than someone who delivers consistently but not spectacularly.

These are caricatures. Tendulkar was more pragmatic in how he adjusted his play based on the situation but also aggressive when he needed to be. Lara when he cut loose always seemed possible to get out and frequently did.

And consistency is a must for anyone who wants to get to top tier level. What you do on top of that determines who is better.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Don't think Lara was more of a matchwinner than Viv.

Lara scored 500 or more in a series 7 times. Viv only 2. Plus Viv never played any innings like 153 or 213.

Sachin overshadowed Dravid in his two peaks and Dravid overshadowed Sachin in his.

Sachin never had any performance like 180, Sabina Park or 2011 tour of England.

 

[smash84]

Tendulkar was more pragmatic in how he adjusted his play based on the situation but also aggressive when he needed to be.

This is a caricature.

 

[subshakerz]

Lara scored 500 or more in a series 7 times. Viv only 2. Plus Viv never played any innings like 153 or 213.

Oh you mean mega series scorer. Yes, Lara is better than Viv there. But in terms of being the difference between two sides against quality attacks over a series, Viv is better.

Sachin never had any performance like 180, Sabina Park or 2011 tour of England.

Sachin has his own share of knocks beyond Dravid in the 90s too, Chennai 155 and 136, Perth 92, Melbourne 99, etc. Let's not jump the gun there and discredit Tendulkar.

 

[subshakerz]

This is a caricature.

How so?

 

[anil1405]

Sachin has his own share of knocks beyond Dravid in the 90s too, Chennai 155 and 136, Perth 92, Melbourne 99, etc. Let's not jump the gun there and discredit Tendulkar.

One post questioning Sachin and you call out someone for discrediting the player you support, yet 80% of your posts are discrediting the player you tend to argue against.

 

[smash84]

How so?

In the same way that my post on Lara was.

 

[subshakerz]

One post questioning Sachin and you call out someone for discrediting the player you support, yet 80% of your posts are discrediting the player you tend to argue against.

Anil Bhai, I am just addressing blanket statements like 'Tendulkar never had any innings...'

I have mixed my critiques of Lara with his plus points, even on this very page.

 

[subshakerz]

In the same way that my post on Lara was.

Um, ok. So where do you stand on Lara vs Tendulkar now? Longevity vs brilliant flashing?

 

[h_hurricane]

Lara scored 500 or more in a series 7 times. Viv only 2.

One of the disadvantages of playing for an ATG team is that you get to play only one innings in many tests. And that limits your run output.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

One of the disadvantages of playing for an ATG team is that you get to play only one innings in many tests. And that limits your run output.

Even in the 7 series Lara played only in 3 he batted all innings and one of them was a 3 match series while the other 2 was 4 match series.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Wow subshakerz owning all the sensitive Lara fans here.

 

[honestbharani]

Lara > Sachin in tests.
Sachin >> Lara in ODIs.

 

[subshakerz]

Wow subshakerz owning all the sensitive Lara fans here.

Haha I do wonder why they are so sensitive though. I loved watching Lara but I always accepted he was an errant guy and that affected his game while Tendulkar was a boring monk.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Haha I do wonder why they are so sensitive though. I loved watching Lara but I always accepted he was an errant guy and that affected his game while Tendulkar was a boring monk.

That only makes Lara better. Who likes monks?

 

[subshakerz]

That only makes Lara better. Who likes monks?

Hey I think Lara's foibles add to his allure but let's not pretend they don't exist.

As the immortal Tony Cozier called him 'the prodigal son turned messiah'...

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Hey I think Lara's foibles add to his allure but let's not pretend they don't exist.

What is this strawman?

 

[subshakerz]

What is this strawman?

Correction, strawman is when you misrepresent someone, not when I accurately present a reality that fans are unwilling to accept.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Correction, strawman is when you misrepresent someone, not when I accurately present a reality that fans are unwilling to accept.

Except no one here pretends that they don't exist. As usual it's all in your head

 

[subshakerz]

Except no one here pretends that they don't exist. As usual it's all in your head

Awesome so we all agree then that Lara really sucked at times in a way no other top tier ATG bat did. Thanks Asshole Bhai.