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*Official* Australia A in New Zealand 2022/23

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
Cartwright getting bowled was a great meme, he really needs to bring that back.
I've heard that post DRS alot of taller batsmen coming up in Aus struggle with the LBW because if you get a good stride into the ball at the lower levels from watto/Greens height the umpire is just going to assume the ball is going over, while at higher level umpires are alot more happy to give them. Maybe hilton had the same issue?
 

Prince EWS

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I've heard that post DRS alot of taller batsmen coming up in Aus struggle with the LBW because if you get a good stride into the ball at the lower levels from watto/Greens height the umpire is just going to assume the ball is going over, while at higher level umpires are alot more happy to give them. Maybe hilton had the same issue?
Yeah I think that does happen to a few players, but that doesn't explain why he was getting straight up bowled.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
He needs to be keeping.
No, he really doesn't.

Even if I put aside my prevoius point about Philippe being more likely to fire with the bat imo without the added burden of keeping, the fact remains that he simply isn't very good at it. That alone should be reason in enough of itself to give it up
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
No, he really doesn't.

Even if I put aside my prevoius point about Philippe being more likely to fire with the bat imo without the added burden of keeping, the fact remains that he simply isn't very good at it. That alone should be reason in enough of itself to give it up
Did you read my post? I was saying philippe doesn't make it into a WA side, even one missing a few key batsmen, if he's not keeping. I agree with you on the fact that dropping the gloves should help His batting, but that doesn't really matter if he's not getting game time without the gloves without some freak injuries/form drops.
 

Burgey

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A Victorian again ruining everything by going at over 4rpo. Junk.

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Rubbish
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
He's pretty ordinary isn't he
Neck injury really ruined him. Hasn't been half the bowler he was since. Real shame, but we have some good younger guys coming through now, so not too worried. Murphy is gun, sangha is promising aswell and kuhnemann is a perfect secomd/third spinner on more helpful decks.
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
Perfect opportunity for clarkson to do what he did last PS season post lunch and really take the game away from Aus-A.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Did you read my post? I was saying philippe doesn't make it into a WA side, even one missing a few key batsmen, if he's not keeping. I agree with you on the fact that dropping the gloves should help His batting, but that doesn't really matter if he's not getting game time without the gloves without some freak injuries/form drops.
I did read your post, and I just simply disagree with it.

I think you are slightly overestimating WA bench strengh/exaggerating how far down the pecking order he actually is (of the names you mentioned I would be definitely picking him ahead of Stoinis, who should be moved on from entirely in FC cricket imo). With international duties and maybe a couple injuries thrown in he can absolutely 100% be picked as a specialist bat

The idea the he needs to keep wicket to play is just utterly bizarre
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
I did read your post, and I just simply disagree with it.

I think you are slightly overestimating WA bench strengh/exaggerating how far down the pecking order he actually is (of the names you mentioned I would be definitely picking him ahead of Stoinis, who should be moved on from entirely in FC cricket imo). With international duties and maybe a couple injuries thrown in he can absolutely 100% be picked as a specialist bat

The idea the he needs to keep wicket to play is just utterly bizarre
"I agree with you on the fact that dropping the gloves should help his batting, but that doesn't really matter if he's not getting game time without the gloves without some freak injuries/form drop" quote from my last post.

Where making the same point. He's not going to play unless a few freak injuries happen and/or a ton of guys get called up to international cricket. My point in the first post wasn't "He needs to keep to play all the time", it was "He needs to keep to play if the three main WA test squad guys get called up (Inglis, Green, Marsh)." My bad if I didn't communicate that correctly.

If the aforementioned guys get called up, and a few of the other guys who are batting middle order get injured and/or Philippe decides to bat at 3, he doesn't need to keep to play.
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
"I agree with you on the fact that dropping the gloves should help his batting, but that doesn't really matter if he's not getting game time without the gloves without some freak injuries/form drop" quote from my last post.

Where making the same point. He's not going to play unless a few freak injuries happen and/or a ton of guys get called up to international cricket. My point in the first post wasn't "He needs to keep to play all the time", it was "He needs to keep to play if the three main WA test squad guys get called up (Inglis, Green, Marsh)." My bad if I didn't communicate that correctly.

If the aforementioned guys get called up, and a few of the other guys who are batting middle order get injured and/or Philippe decides to bat at 3, he doesn't need to keep to play.
Well that makes a fair bit more sense I suppose. Would still personally prefer to see Philippe not keeping full stop, but in that scenario with Inglis being one of the players unavailable I at least understand it

It's the take that "He ShOuLd MoVe StAtEs To KeEp WiCkEt ReGuLaRlY" which shits me to no end, but that isn't at all what you were saying here
 

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