Pakistan haven't ever really had a great that batted mostly at 3 have they.Azhar Ali was gun for a long time but Shan Masood at 3 is, er, not ideal. Add Pakistan to the thirsty for Hammond club.
Zaheer Abbas is the closest. Not great but makes the world XI at times.Pakistan haven't ever really had a great that batted mostly at 3 have they.
I think he counts. He is a Pakistan legend. I forgot he batted so much at 3.Zaheer Abbas is the closest. Not great but makes the world XI at times.
Probably because he became a #4 in the exile years and was a #3 in the iconic 2000s middle order even though that was a smaller portion of his career.For some reason I remembered - and always thought of - Younis Khan as predominantly a number 3 who also batted quite a bit at 4. It was really surprising to find that it was actually the other way around.
Really comparisons across eras so far removed are not viable and somewhat odious. This is why I adopt pre CW/post CW as conditions are so different. That said I acknowledge the old time stars in their own contexts.I tend to rate WK bats more on the batting side (obviously no Kamran Akmals though, have to meet a decent standard), as I think the keeping side is both the more subjective, and in a way more uniformly distributed of the two talents.
That said, you have to consider who they are replacing. Gilly would replace the teams current WK, Hammond would replace the team's least useful Specialist bat/batting all-rounder. I daresay even with a bit extra value from keeping, there are some really poor Specialist bats in average Test teams, and Hammond's extra batting would go a long way in improving that, even more than the extra batting and WK Gilly adds over your current keeper.
Of course, all assuming that Hammond's skills translate, but yeah that caveat could be added to all super old timey players, especially the Pre WWII ones.
... yes.Do people here really think that Hammond was a much better bat than Gilly?
Why?... yes.
Because one is one of the greatest bats of all time and the other played for 8 years and was massively helped by the quality of batting before him such that he could cash in at #7.Why?
NoBecause one is one of the greatest bats of all time and the other played for 8 years and was massively helped by the quality of batting before him such that he could cash in at #7.
Hammond being ranked high on your list just proves how **** your list is.
I’m glad you’ve come up with some reasons to back your contrary opinion rather than just coming in and saying Hammond sucks.Hammond being ranked high on your list just proves how **** your list is.
He’s basically Mike Hussey. Only played tests during his short prime, got to **** around in the shield at a young age.Gilchrist sucks btw.