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Steve Smith vs Sachin Tendulkar

Who is the better test batsman?

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shortpitched713

shortpitched713

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subshakerz said:
Point still remains that it's easier for a speedy bat to adjust to slow mode than the opposite.
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Based on what evidence? I mean, if we're going by anecdote, I can talk about how Labuschagne decided to try and copy Khawaja, and ended up scoring 9 (80) in one of the most ridiculous innings that made me want to throw him through a window, but sure tell me how faster scoring players can just adjust to a more accumulator role when the time requires, just because high SR = gooder batter .
 
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subshakerz

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shortpitched713 said:
Based on what evidence? I mean, if we're going by anecdote, I can talk about how Labuschagne decided to try and copy Khawaja, and ended up scoring 9 (80) in one of the most ridiculous innings that made me want to throw him through a window, but sure tell me how faster scoring players can just adjust to a more accumulator role when the time requires, just because high SR = gooder batter .
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Um, because spending time on the crease to get used to things is a basic requirement for test batsmen?
 
shortpitched713

shortpitched713

International Captain
subshakerz said:
Um, because spending time on the crease to get used to things is a basic requirement for test batsmen?
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Getting your eye in is different from "spending time at the crease". Predominant batting philosophy these days is to cash in to the max on every bad ball. Obviously it's hard when the batsman is initially struggling to see it. You might think this is the same as it's always been, but batting philosophy used to include "cutting out" certain strokes as being too risky in certain situations or against more difficult opposition in difficult conditions. These days no stroke (within reason) is beyond the pale. You can't tell me that most batsmen today would not struggle, if trying to adopt a "risk free accumulation" methodology.
 
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subshakerz

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shortpitched713 said:
Getting your eye in is different from "spending time at the crease". Predominant batting philosophy these days is to cash in to the max on every bad ball. Obviously it's hard when the batsman is initially struggling to see it. You might think this is the same as it's always been, but batting philosophy used to include "cutting out" certain strokes as being too risky in certain situations or against more difficult opposition in difficult conditions. These days no stroke (within reason) is beyond the pale. You can't tell me that most batsmen today would not struggle, if trying to adopt a "risk free accumulation" methodology.
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You almost never need to adopt an accumulation mode. You either need to grind it out to get used to the crease or just survive or score freely.
 
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Bolo.

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BazBall21 said:
Yeah that's true. A smaller factor than time, but other batsmen can benefit from the efficient aggression of their teammate.
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There's going to be a fairly big impact on bats at the other end when you compare someone going nuts on the bowling to someone batting in a shell.

But I don't know how true this is for an extra run and over, which is the difference between SRs for bats who get praised vs criticized. Unless a team is getting seriously bogged down, are batting partners being affected by (or even noticing) their partners score an extra 4 every 4 overs?
 
shortpitched713

shortpitched713

International Captain
ma1978 said:
Just was in an elevator with Steve Smith in a hotel in a random US city. Strange. He clearly noticed the ******** look of awe on my face.
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Why are you overawed at a cricketer? Should have at least just said good day, and expressed your appreciation of his batting.
 
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