Most profound World Cup Winners

[HouHsiaoHsien]

I think 96 was more important since it signaled a permanent shift to the SC as the center of gravity of cricket fandom. 83 and 87 didn't do that.

83 started that shift and had a more paramount impact in that respect, plus despite Ind defeating WI once before, pulling off that miraculous win in the final was the unlikeliest thing ever. Because of that it was the most profound. Agree on 1992 being the most poignant.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Yes 1992 was the most poignant with Martin Crowe being severely injured and the NZ players and fans being heartbroken at the end of the semifinal.

 

[Jumno]

Sri Lanka 1996. In a very short space of time Sri Lanka went from semi-minnow to World Cup winners.

It was such a shame that Eden Gardens turned to hell in the Semi-Finals robbing the Sri Lankan's of a proper path to the final. It was a poor World Cup overall if not for Sri Lanka, Kenya and a couple of fantastic individual performances.

All Qf's, sf's were all great matches

Some good performances in the group stages, Kenya upset, de Silva, Kirsten knocks etc

 

[subshakerz]

83 started that shift and had a more paramount impact in that respect, plus despite Ind defeating WI once before, pulling off that miraculous win in the final was the unlikeliest thing ever. Because of that it was the most profound. Agree on 1992 being the most poignant.

83 didn't change cricket like 96 though.

Legacy of 96:
- Emergence of SL as a non-minnow
- Aggressive batting became norm, especially in early overs
- Subcontinent became the center of gravity of cricket fandom
- LOIs truly became the rival format to tests in terms of popularity

 

[honestbharani]

83 didn't change cricket like 96 though.

Legacy of 96:
- Emergence of SL as a non-minnow
- Aggressive batting became norm, especially in early overs
- Subcontinent became the center of gravity of cricket fandom
- LOIs truly became the rival format to tests in terms of popularity

You do realise the 83 WC was the reason WCs were held in the SC ?

 

[Victor Ian]

Surely 19 should be in the list. This is so profound as it marked the swing in attitude in the world where we will accept cheating and obscure tie breaks to crown a champion who couldn't win on merit, like all the others.

 

[subshakerz]

You do realise the 83 WC was the reason WCs were held in the SC ?

Yes but I am talking about broader impacts that affected cricket from 96.

 

[Slifer]

Which of the following WC winners was, IYO, the most profound, poignant, remarkable one

1975 - W.Indies, led by Clive Lloyd in the 1st ever WC, amidst much fanfare and providing the impetus for the success of the ODI game

1983 - India, led by Kapil Dev for staging what is the greatest upset in the game, if not arguably one in sports history

1987 - Australia, led by Alan Border who won against all expectations and pulled Australia out from their depths of cricketing despair to a resurgence resulting in a long-lasting dynasty that could be traced to this singular event

1992 - Pakistan, led by Imran Khan who by sheer dint of leadership, pulled Pakistan out from a corner and played like tigers to secure the championship in his last international and chance to secure funds for his hospital dedicated to his mother

1996 - Sri Lanka, led by Arjuna Ranatunga who took it as an insult that some countries were not willing to tour S.Lanka and rallied his troops to believe they could take on the best and beat them

Lol lol they had good reason not to as I recall.

 

[honestbharani]

Yes but I am talking about broader impacts that affected cricket from 96.

And I am saying 83 is the reason 96 happened.

 

[subshakerz]

And I am saying 83 is the reason 96 happened.

And I am saying 96 impacted cricket more than just the hosting of a single tournament.

 

[honestbharani]

And I am saying 96 impacted cricket more than just the hosting of a single tournament.

You are wrong as usual

 

[Victor Ian]

and I am saying England are undeserving.

 

[subshakerz]

You are wrong as usual

Give your reasoning.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

83 didn't change cricket like 96 though.

Legacy of 96:
- Emergence of SL as a non-minnow
- Aggressive batting became norm, especially in early overs
- Subcontinent became the center of gravity of cricket fandom
- LOIs truly became the rival format to tests in terms of popularity

I agree with this, but the platform for it was set by 83, the initial boom in popularity in SC answer Ind especially, and for Ind personally, it was perhaps the first victory that put them on a final pedestal. Also heralded the end of ODIS as a format only dominated WI. 83 was the beginning of cricket becoming a sort of religion in India. Perhaps 96 did something similar for SL, but due to the size of Ind’s influence in cricket since then, I’d say 83.

 

[trundler]

92, with the cornered tigers charge, IK's last tournament, the whole cancer hospital thing, was definitely the most poignant.

It led to the cringiest acceptance speech ever and Imran's political career so it was a double edged sword

 

[subshakerz]

It led to the cringiest acceptance speech ever and Imran's political career so it was a double edged sword

Take it easy on Khan sahib, poor guy is in jail now. Hope he can survive there.

 

[subshakerz]

I agree with this, but the platform for it was set by 83, the initial boom in popularity in SC answer Ind especially, and for Ind personally, it was perhaps the first victory that put them on a final pedestal. Also heralded the end of ODIS as a format only dominated WI. 83 was the beginning of cricket becoming a sort of religion in India. Perhaps 96 did something similar for SL, but due to the size of Ind’s influence in cricket since then, I’d say 83.

Maybe we can agree 83 was a foundation but 96 was the takeoff.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Maybe we can agree 83 was a foundation but 96 was the takeoff.

Perhaps, but because of the change in Ind cricket since then, and the command it holds, especially financially in the cricket world today, and all of it beginning since there, I’d chose 83. Plus it was the beginning of the end of one team domination that had characterized ODI’s till then.

 

[subshakerz]

Perhaps, but because of the change in Ind cricket since then, and the command it holds, especially financially in the cricket world today, and all of it beginning since there, I’d chose 83. Plus it was the beginning of the end of one team domination that had characterized ODI’s till then.

India's financial boom began in the 90s though. Anyways, I see where you are coming from.

 

[Burgey]

The 1983 final is probably the biggest upset in terms of finals played in the world cup. There was a huge mismatch quite like David and Goliath.

1992 WC reads almost like a fantasy script for Imran. The famous headline in some Aussie newspaper "Kuiper knocks Pakistan out of the World Cup" when Pakistan lost to SA. Then Imran coming out with the cornered tiger motto talking to Ian Chappell before the match against Australia

YouTube - Imran Khan's "Cornered Tigers" speech

and then the famous interview before the world cup final

YouTube - Imran Khan 1992 Wold Cup Final Cornered Tiger

Stuff of legends

He wore a tee shirt to toss a coin. If that's all it takes to qualify for inspired leadership then you can just mail it in. Surely there's a zillion other tangible examples of what he did and how he rallied that side you can point to rather than him having an iron-on transfer on his chest? Because the shirt thing is very, very average tstl. I don't think there's much doubt the Pakistan win is right up there in terms of this thread, but I'm not sure the cornered tiger stuff is a thing.