Dennis Lillee vs Fred Trueman

[subshakerz]

Wondering if this has been done before.

 

[Aidan11]

If Hoggard was a better bowler than Lillee then Trueman must also be better.

Which he was.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Oh God. Years of @Prince EWS propaganda finally working.

 

[BazBall21]

Voted against my profile

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Weirdly, these two were EXACTLY as good as each other.

 

[subshakerz]

Voted against my profile

Really? I thought you would go for Fred.

 

[Chin Music]

I sure some footage of FST the other day. I know it is from many years ago and not the best, but I wonder just how quick he would be on the speed gun today? I wasn't convinced he would be in the top bracket in terms of pace. Fred Trueman 1952,1961,1964! - YouTube

 

[Chin Music]

Speeds pre-1998 | CricketWeb Forum I also noted this thread.

 

[ataraxia]

Trueman beating Lillee by a smaller margin than Hoggard is doing so.

Though I fear that if some poor sod is to start up "Trueman v Hoggard", a sort of demented Penrose triangle may result.

 

[Coronis]

Lillee and Trueman both overrated but Lillee is more overrated than Trueman.

 

[ankitj]

This is an interesting one. I have always wondered why isn't Trueman, rather than Lillee, is considered archetype of modern day intimidating pace bowler? Pace bowlers before him didn't take so many wickets at such average, SR and WPM over a longish career. I understand Lillee had more followers and more latter day great pacers gave credit to Lillee which explains this. Still interesting to note how Trueman was first of his kind.

 

[_00_deathscar]

This is an interesting one. I have always wondered why isn't Trueman, rather than Lillee, is considered archetype of modern day intimidating pace bowler? Pace bowlers before him didn't take so many wickets at such average, SR and WPM over a longish career. I understand Lillee had more followers and more latter day great pacers gave credit to Lillee which explains this. Still interesting to note how Trueman was first of his kind.

Television surely?

 

[subshakerz]

Interesting didn't expect Trueman to be leading.

 

[BazBall21]

He beat Akram as well. Trueman does alright on here.

 

[trundler]

Beating Akram is nonsense imo but between these two ATG HTBs he may well be better.

 

[BazBall21]

Beating Akram is nonsense imo but between these two ATG HTBs he may well be better.

I rate both Akram and Lillee higher than him tbh. His SR is amazing and he was great against WI towards the end but there are question marks outside that.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Lillee>Trueman.Both ahead of Akram in my list.

 

[shortpitched713]

Both a couple of overrated Convict/Pommie *****, but I'll give it to Trueman, just barely.

I like RIS's post though, because to me one is simply a more modern version of the other, although I think Trueman was the slightly more effective for his era.

 

[trundler]

Lillee did a lot better in England than Trueman did in Australia though.

 

[h_hurricane]

Trueman is true man, Lillee is myth man.